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Old 07-01-2022, 11:11 AM
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It makes sense to have Agnostic. In a world where magic and god-like beings are real, the standard for what a true "god" is is much higher lol. If a "god" can be killed, is it really a "god"?
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:14 AM
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pretty hard to be atheist when you can literally see and kill gods.
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Then why have agnostic as an option?

An atheist would say that there is no proof your god is actually a god.
IIRC technically we're only presented with the avatars of the gods. So if atheism existed, it would have given way to agnosticism once the populace of Norrath became aware of beings greater than themselves that were or at least seemed to be godlike. Plus every player and non-player character respawns after dying, so there would be that to grapple with as well. Ultimately, the devs are the actual gods. Guides/GMs are a close second, but even they have been killed by players and only have had so much power / so many commands.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:21 AM
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Quite probably this is because McQuaid was rather religious himself and allowing the pagan sort of diety options was about as far as he was willing to go, and even then only begrudgingly. It's also why there are very few "demon" type creatures in the original game, and none of significant stature.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:34 AM
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They already have Woke D&D, OP. The art styles are hideous and mostly digital trash.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:35 AM
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Then why have agnostic as an option?

An atheist would say that there is no proof your god is actually a god.
I think that's what an agnostic would say. An atheist would say he's not a god, there are no gods. But an agnostic would say maybe he's a god, but I don't chose to follow him.

At least that's my basic understanding of the difference between the two.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:39 AM
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IIRC technically we're only presented with the avatars of the gods. So if atheism existed, it would have given way to agnosticism once the populace of Norrath became aware of beings greater than themselves that were or at least seemed to be godlike. Plus every player and non-player character respawns after dying, so there would be that to grapple with as well. Ultimately, the devs are the actual gods. Guides/GMs are a close second, but even they have been killed by players and only have had so much power / so many commands.
Where did you get all this from? Did somebody tell you or did you come up with it yourself? Where did you get your definition of god and godlike from? How do we know it's the correct definition or can godlike be whatever you want it to be?
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:41 AM
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An athiest would say there are no gods then proceed to kneel in front of a computer and say that if we dont continue working for it we will all die and one day it will make us live forever.

This is because, if athiests are right we are evolved to REQUIRE worship of an alpha entity. So therefore, if athiestm exists, then it CANNOT exist.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:46 AM
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I think that's what an agnostic would say. An atheist would say he's not a god, there are no gods. But an agnostic would say maybe he's a god, but I don't chose to follow him.

At least that's my basic understanding of the difference between the two.
  1. You are a god (<------ how do you know they are a god? Did somebody tell you?)
  2. You may or may not be a god I don't really know (<------ why is this an option if everybody knows gods exist?)
  3. You are not a god (<------ why is this option missing? Is god not existing impossible?)
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:51 AM
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In 1979, Russell Sipe left the Southern Baptist Convention ministry. A fan of computer games, he realized in spring 1981 that no magazine was dedicated to computer games. Although Sipe had no publishing experience, he formed Golden Empire Publications in June and found investors. He chose the name Computer Gaming World (CGW) instead of alternatives such as Computer Games or Kilobaud Warrior because he hoped that the magazine would both review games and serve as a trade publication for the industry. The first issue appeared in November, about the same as rivals Electronic Games and Softline. (Sipe's religious background led to "Psalm 9:1–2" appearing in each issue. His successor as editor, Johnny L. Wilson, was an evangelical Christian minister.)
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In the Book of Revelation, Satan appears as a Great Red Dragon, who is defeated by Michael the Archangel and cast down from Heaven. He is later bound for one thousand years, but is briefly set free before being ultimately defeated and cast into the Lake of Fire.
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Note: When atheists took over the magazine after Ziff Davis Jr. died they turned it into a for-profit endeavor only and died shortly thereafter.
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Old 07-01-2022, 11:57 AM
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