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[Ripp]

And for the record, all those "news" outlets I posted are all trash. I realize you follow most of them but they're still trash.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ripp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

San Francisco is the prime culprit, they give them drugs and alcohol at tax payer expense.

As far as treating the drug users, most don't want to be helped. The problem is, cities are being destroyed inside and out with liberal policies that only compound the problem. Businesses and corporations are fleeing in droves from liberal cities, it's simply unmanageable. Their residents are also fleeing, it's not safe nor profitable any longer. When you allow criminals to rampage the city with no recourse while we ALL pick up the tab via higher prices and tax increases, there's a serious problem that's untenable.

So, either continue to throw money and drugs at the problem, let criminals run free while their cities die or try another approach. How many liberal cities must be destroyed before something changes?

They'll just continue to party on deck while the ship sinks. It's moronic and people are stupid sheeple. It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

The only time I heard about gov’t funded drugs in CA was when they forced the homeless into hotels during the height of covid (which the homeless absolutely thrashed, it was hilarious), and had to entice them with alcohol and drugs on the justification that without it they would go into withdrawal. They could have tried to medically detox them at the hotel, that would have made more sense, but they had to get the homeless to agree to go. And no homeless drug addict is going to pick detox over drugs

If there is another juicy documented case of gov’t funded drugs in CA, I’m all ears though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yea, the problem with the entire drug treatment program is that someone can just say no. Naive politicians think there’s some magic phrase a counselor can say to get them to agree. But let’s be real, a lot of these people are not functional even without the hard drugs. They’re either far too stupid, too disabled, and/or too uneducated. They couldn’t maintain even the easiest of jobs sober. Nor a house, if they were to be given one. The house would go to shit and be unlivable. Who’s gonna pay to have it fixed back up again?

It’s a complicated issue, homeless drug addicts

The soft on crime (violent or theft especially) policies, I think politicians are soon going to come around on. Those are fucking stupid, I agree, and places like LA and San Fran are setting the example for the rest of the country as to how fast soft on crime can turn a city into vacant blight

[Ripp]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only time I heard about gov’t funded drugs in CA was when they forced the homeless into hotels during the height of covid (which the homeless absolutely thrashed, it was hilarious), and had to entice them with alcohol and drugs on the justification that without it they would go into withdrawal. They could have tried to medically detox them at the hotel, that would have made more sense, but they had to get the homeless to agree to go. And no homeless drug addict is going to pick detox over drugs

If there is another juicy documented case of gov’t funded drugs in CA, I’m all ears though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yea, the problem with the entire drug treatment program is that someone can just say no. Naive politicians think there’s some magic phrase a counselor can say to get them to agree. But let’s be real, a lot of these people are not functional even without the hard drugs. They’re either far too stupid, too disabled, and/or too uneducated. They couldn’t maintain even the easiest of jobs sober. Nor a house, if they were to be given one. The house would go to shit and be unlivable. Who’s gonna pay to have it fixed back up again?

It’s a complicated issue, homeless drug addicts

The soft on crime (violent or theft especially) policies, I think politicians are soon going to come around on. Those are fucking stupid, I agree, and places like LA and San Fran are setting the example for the rest of the country as to how fast soft on crime can turn a city into vacant blight

I don't know of others but they're at least handing out drug related items. None of it is good.

I hope you're right on the crime issue but they seem to be leaning into their decisions and doubling down. It's insanity. You know when companies start locking up frozen goods to deter theft https://www.supermarketnews.com/reta...ds-deter-theft , there's something seriously wrong. And if they're going to come around, when? Will that be after all the major retailers leave the city and residents bail en masse? How can they turn around a disaster like that? You think that's possible?

That would also require the liberal leaders to admit they were wrong and their policies failed. Ever heard a liberal admit to that? Me neither. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see any bright spots in those cities. They're being destroyed, and rather quickly now. We'll see.

[unsunghero]

The best solution for homeless drug addicts is:

1. Start from the worst cases (ones that commit other crimes due to their drug use), and give them an ultimatum, it’s either prison or treatment, they have to pick one. Always good to give someone a little bit of autonomy and choice, yknow? Helps them feel more in control, works for kids [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. Treatment will last a length of time based on their participation. Go along with the program and try, and you’ll be out faster. Fuck it up or refuse, and it will last a long time or it’s off to prison

3. Treatment has to involve community integration. This would involve some kind of support system building and purpose. Crowd out the chance to relapse by keeping people busy with things within their individual ability to do

4. Gov’t funded Housing is screened. The most functional get the first and best options. The least functional get a metal storage container with metal furniture. Not the most comfortable but better than a tent or cardboard box. When they cover the floor and walls with their shit, relapse and die in there, the whole place can be hosed down and re-used. No maintenance

I could solve a lot of this stuff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Ripp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know of others but they're at least handing out drug related items. None of it is good.

I hope you're right on the crime issue but they seem to be leaning into their decisions and doubling down. It's insanity. You know when companies start locking up frozen goods to deter theft https://www.supermarketnews.com/reta...ds-deter-theft , there's something seriously wrong. And if they're going to come around, when? Will that be after all the major retailers leave the city and residents bail en masse? How can they turn around a disaster like that? You think that's possible?

That would also require the liberal leaders to admit they were wrong and their policies failed. Ever heard a liberal admit to that? Me neither. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see any bright spots in those cities. They're being destroyed, and rather quickly now. We'll see.

They are being destroyed by commies on purpose

It's easier to control decadent and desperate people who have been brainwashed into the abyss of depravity

That's the Dem Playbook. Every blue shithole is run this way.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They are being destroyed by commies on purpose

It's easier to control decadent and desperate people who have been brainwashed into the abyss of depravity

That's the Dem Playbook. Every blue shithole is run this way.

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. I don’t see how destroying a city benefits them

No, what’s going on is these liberal state politicians have decided that poverty is the REAL issue, and in a way that’s correct. Poverty drives crime, but crime drives poverty just as much or more. So these politicians think, “We NeEd tO gET tO tHe ROOT cAuSe oF all ThIs!”

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I hate this phrase so much. Because they can barely list the root causes (always ignoring culture of course), much less fix them. And in the meantime, the city suffers an increase in crime

The best analogy is cancer. If someone went to an oncologist, and was told “we have decided to divert our resources from treating cancer right now, to instead figure out the root causes of cancer. We are confident that by doing this, in another [x] years or so, we can eradicate cancer for good!”

And everyone with cancer is like “uhh so I just have to die until then?”

Solving poverty is a future solution. More police is a right now solution. How much resources and focus is put into one or other depends on the politicians

[unsunghero]

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Also, it’s a simple as, to a liberal politician

1. Too many black people are incarcerated, and that makes me LE SAD
2. Maybe we should just stop incarcerating people
3. Now I feel less sad! I done a good thing!

But if there is a malice angle that makes reasonable sense to me, I’m down to hear it

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. I don’t see how destroying a city benefits them

Create a voting block that will vote for the party that gives them party supplies.

[Toxigen]

they dont even report the race of criminals in san fran anymore because of muh racism

lawl

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Create a voting block that will vote for the party that gives them party supplies.

Right because drug addicts care about voting. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]