ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My guess on mel is that everything she has done in stannis' service has been to get her to her real goal, whatever that is, with jon snow. None of it was her making mistakes or misreading anything. All of the "failures" are just necessary steps to get her to what she saw in the fire. Which explains why she didn't even seem sincere the first time we saw her in the series when she was talking about stannis being the Lord of light.

That's a pretty forgiving view of Mel. If we accept Jon is to be Azor Ahai Reborn, I think her viewing Stannis in her flames was meant to lead her to Jon, but look at the hash she's made of that vision so far. There are other visions she seems to choose to ignore because they don't fit what she wants to happen. Her King's blood/blood magic moves are total manure, which really chaps my cheeks.

Rather than continue to rag on her, I'll just say if she interpreted her dreams correctly 100% of the time, GRRM's story would be shorter and lesser. Its part of what makes his writing interesting - characters are complicated, flawed, lovable and detestable. I happen to really like Davos. He's a smart, brave, dependable character, and since he is a POV and distrusts Mel, I do too.

BTW, at no time in my readings did i get the impression that Mel did not sincerely believe Stannis was Azor Ahai. Help me, because I don't know where the story tells us otherwise.

[holahouze]

Check out what HBO has to say about Stannis.

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of...nnis-baratheon

[India]

Hmmmm,,, so HBO is saying Stannis was killed

Interesting

[holahouze]

Kind of a bizarre way to get confirmation, but that's what the site says. That hurt more than i thought it would...

[LGraves]

Yeah =/ I usually watch each episode a few times. This last one I only watched once.

[Sikorsky]

I bet lunch he isnt dead - they'd have showed it. They showed Neds head, by not Stannis'? People loved Ned, and hated Stannis (after he burned his daughter), so if he were dead - they'd have showed it.

[Taryth]

Well, this was the concluding episode for season 5. They could've not shown the supposed decapitation in order to compel people to watch the next season. Cliff hanger. Hook.

This is the only time they've not been over-shadowed by the book. It's true that they usually show deaths, but they didn't show this one to get people talking about it; more exposure. I think they're capitalizing on that, regardless of how the rest of the show has been.

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sikorsky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet lunch he isnt dead - they'd have showed it. They showed Neds head, by not Stannis'? People loved Ned, and hated Stannis (after he burned his daughter), so if he were dead - they'd have showed it.

I hope you're right, as I would like to see more of Stannis. I've merely provided you a link to see what HBO has to say about it. Deceased. Dead. Muerto. Brienne's page says she killed him. HBO also says Jon is dead, but we anticipate he'll have another life. So, keep the faith.

[Sirken]

that same website lists Jon Snow as dead. not buying it. im not saying Stannis is 100% alive (or dead). just that i wouldnt trust any website as my sole source for anyone elses death, if that site is listing Jon as deceased.

[India]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that same website lists Jon Snow as dead. not buying it. im not saying Stannis is 100% alive (or dead). just that i wouldnt trust any website as my sole source for anyone elses death, if that site is listing Jon as deceased.

I'm guessing they have Jon Snow listed as dead because he IS dead