the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're mistaking the argument we're having with the lesson being taught to students, dingus.

It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative

[starkind]

Also if you can't guarantee safety don't push people to do and normalize dangerous things.

And teach them safety is their own responsibility no one else is going to change to make you feel good about yourself.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative

Again another great post.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea is to lower the mortality rate for the cohort by destigmatizing gender identity early. It's good programming.

Well like most bad ideas, it sounds great on paper. But in this specific case, it doesn't even stand up to the most basic interrogation which is why the actual verbiage always reads like a deepak chopra quote generator.

Wtf does "destigmatizing gender identity" even mean? Define it without using any of those words.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative

Individual therapy experience may not apply directly to outcomes at scale.

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well like most bad ideas, it sounds great on paper. But in this specific case, it doesn't even stand up to the most basic interrogation which is why the actual verbiage always reads like a deepak chopra quote generator.

Wtf does "destigmatizing gender identity" even mean? Define it without using any of those words.

Which word confused you? Try googling it instead of demanding I perform tricks for you.

[Rethalis]

I'm pretty sure social science studies hit its peak in ancient greece. Anything in that field after antiquity sounds like whole bunch of delusional people making up shit about people they don't understand just to sell a book or something.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Individual therapy experience may not apply directly to outcomes at scale.

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Listen, the kids are getting wind of the fact that their suicidality has become some sort of progress metric

Maybe not the really little ones, but kids are sponges, and unfortunately the trans suicide rate is broadcast everywhere, on the internet, on tv, amongst peer groups, in behavioral health, all over the place

So we can’t pretend that these are some think tank meeting of the great psychological minds that kids have no concept of. They know. And that being used as a metric is dangerous, to the point where it may even be killing more kids than it is saving

Just my 0.02

[GinnasP99]

It would seem that living a lie, abandoning reason, and separating yourself from God makes you unhappy. I wonder what doing the opposite does ?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen, the kids are getting wind of the fact that their suicidality has become some sort of progress metric

Maybe not the really little ones, but kids are sponges, and unfortunately the trans suicide rate is broadcast everywhere, on the internet, on tv, amongst peer groups, in behavioral health, all over the place

So we can’t pretend that these are some think tank meeting of the great psychological minds that kids have no concept of. They know. And that being used as a metric is dangerous, to the point where it may even be killing more kids than it is saving

Just my 0.02

They'll be horrified to learn adults were secretly conspiring to keep them alive. Nations will fall.