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Old 02-08-2013, 06:46 AM
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Daltheb is so fail for not frapsing the mass dive bomb into the hole, that's what made it awesome.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:36 AM
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My question is if zeelot was already sitting in Seb when the batphone went out why didn't he send another saying false alrarm. Why did tmo log In form groups and clear trak lair juggs. So being how lately Fe has beat them on getting the numbers faster for trak lately, tmo decides it would be best to clear juggs and protector so if trak does spawn Fe can engage faster. Why is it the so called fake batphone went off after zeelot was logged in. It doesn't seem suspicious at all that tmo would log in, group up, clear juggs, and then trak spawn right after. Not at all, though tmo has never been seen clearing juggs prior to trak spawning. First it was a 5 min poopsock, then it was app batphoned, then it was Fe batphoned, what's next Elvis batphoned. Twist away, not like desmo wasn't telling everyone tmo will definately get track, he guarentees it. Say Fe sucks so bad, then how bad is tmo to have 1 year of content on farm and still losing some raid mobs, go head talk shit about vp, since its so unbalanced. Fucking pathetic, you guys can't just raid with class, you have to show your ass.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:26 AM
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I thought it was your app? I mean, I have the SS of you and Zeelot telling me that too, you know.

Our engage was sustained, we had 4 people down there in the lair to make sure of that. We had over 30 people on before you all went in, and well before Option died. It actually was of a far less duration than the one that Desmo and Aalpha pulled off on the Trak before that..when you had 6 people on to our 29. You just happened to all rush in and, well, if you really want to kill mobs for us we arent going to say no.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:43 AM
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I thought it was your app? I mean, I have the SS of you and Zeelot telling me that too, you know.
That was just our best answer at the time - was never conclusive. After feeling the guy out I don't think he did it, but his behavior on vent that morning was certainly questionable. Wtb better vent logs
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:18 AM
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I thought it was your app? I mean, I have the SS of you and Zeelot telling me that too, you know.

Our engage was sustained, we had 4 people down there in the lair to make sure of that. We had over 30 people on before you all went in, and well before Option died. It actually was of a far less duration than the one that Desmo and Aalpha pulled off on the Trak before that..when you had 6 people on to our 29. You just happened to all rush in and, well, if you really want to kill mobs for us we arent going to say no.
You had 9 people on when we went in.... Post your logs fool
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:38 AM
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Also...it doesnt matter who is left alive at the end, what matters is who is first on the encounter log of the mobs death as well as the particular context of the fight. If a mob doesnt not reset and you engage, regardless of if the other raid ends up wiping sometime later, it is not yours.

Each fight is different, hence the importance of the context. Fay is pulled to a spot far far away...that does not mean that you can intercept Fay halfway from a rival guilds puller and lay claim to the kill.

In the same way, a viable strategy for Trakanon is to have individuals with DA and or DA idols run in to take the initial AE and wait for the banishment while the raid prepares itself to engage. For some reason, however, you think it is viable to intercept Trakanon while this is taking place.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:48 AM
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Also...it doesnt matter who is left alive at the end, what matters is who is first on the encounter log of the mobs death as well as the particular context of the fight. If a mob doesnt not reset and you engage, regardless of if the other raid ends up wiping sometime later, it is not yours.
Well I didn't talk to Sirken myself or really discuss it much with my guild, so I don't really know what the issue is here with Trak exactly. I thought at this point though that only sustained engages were considered viable. I thought the disengage thing more applied to like FTE after initial engage DT from Inny or whatever. And on top of that, actually having a force and trying to kill the mob at least a little bit.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:19 AM
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Also...it doesnt matter who is left alive at the end, what matters is who is first on the encounter log of the mobs death as well as the particular context of the fight. If a mob doesnt not reset and you engage, regardless of if the other raid ends up wiping sometime later, it is not yours.

Each fight is different, hence the importance of the context. Fay is pulled to a spot far far away...that does not mean that you can intercept Fay halfway from a rival guilds puller and lay claim to the kill.

In the same way, a viable strategy for Trakanon is to have individuals with DA and or DA idols run in to take the initial AE and wait for the banishment while the raid prepares itself to engage. For some reason, however, you think it is viable to intercept Trakanon while this is taking place.
Wrong, if your people bum rush and all die hoping that the FTE will carry over, Ephi will most certainly rule that the engage had no merit to actually kill the target. As TMO engaged and killed without anyone from your guild doing so (large time gap for something like this to happen) which means you either thought you lost the FTE or you had no intention of actually engaging.

They've already ruled something similar to this once before (who knows how they will rule it again) but even the encounter logs would show what I just said.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:23 AM
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Lol @ these posts. They've ruled in every which way you can imagine in regards to FTE. All that matters is how that particular GM is feeling that day.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:24 AM
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Lol @ these posts. They've ruled in every which way you can imagine in regards to FTE. All that matters is how that particular GM is feeling that day.
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