Raren Loses...all the time.

[Gwence]

My hope is that Phallax continues to add his 2 cents on EVERY SINGLE POST from now on. His commentary is edge of your seat awesome!

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure what to say here except that this is a shame that Loke and Bossco are on the outs over this. DA leadership lied to get a second try at Innoruuk. I think everyone with a clue in both guilds knows this. To call Bossco untrustworthy because he was put into a situation where he was forced to choose between betraying a confidence or helping to conceal a lie against his guild is a pretty raw deal for him. Not that I wouldn't be upset if I were in Loke's position. The whole situation sucks.

Loke is a pretty cool guy. That being said the whole situation was pretty not cool, especially now that more details are coming out. Bossco's choice was his own, and one many people might have trouble deciding between, because it's the choice of one friend, or a guild which (I can only assume) he has other friends in.

[Cyrano]

Oh and one more thing. Modus you have trained us on multiple occasions. We had a Naggy raid in the past six weeks where you trained us multiple times while clearing FGs. The fact that Durison has seen screenshots of this and done nothing is why your guild will continue to be Fish Bait in my mind.

You're a liar and a cheater. You weren't there when we wiped to Vox originally, those screenshots you posted were from the king room. When have we ever pulled her down there to fight? I'm not going to say that you're "laughably wrong" because you're just flat out lying to gain an edge. That in and of itself is the difference between us. When you have an agenda you will do anything - ANYTHING - to beat other guilds.

I would like to reiterate that this post is directed solely at Modus.

[Taxi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0AiZMgjRY

[spoolie]

I have nothing to add, but man why does everquest bring out the baby drama for yo mamma out. I swear ive played multiple MMO since EQ and by far time and time again can't touch the eq drama with a stick

[Cyrano]

I think there is a right/wrong choice here, don't ask your guildies to lie over a mob. This is the same group of leadership that told Secrets we wiped to the bugged Vox 3 times after they called 30 minutes. Lucky for us we had Secrets in vent trying to help us problem solve getting Vox out of the wall and the lie was caught immediately. This led to their raid leader coming into our vent to meet with Xzerion/Secrets where he was called out on it and backed off so we could get a fair shot once she was out of the wall.

Or how about the raid where Xzerion and Durison were in tells and the 30 minutes was established on CT months ago only to have Durison pretend the conversation never took place and say he wasn't the raid leader so they could claim our 30 minutes was invalid once they took too long to pull? This was the same raid where they charmed the last mob in Fear then broke it to claim "The zone isn't clear!" after the 30 minutes was agreed upon. Do you still wonder why many of us take screen shots when in tells with FB/DA?

I have no qualms about why there is bad blood here. I've never seen my guild be anything but fair to these guys only to repeatedly hear them flat out lie to GMs, on forums, and to our faces. I've seen them train us, attempt to KS (Transcendence and Divintiy can both confirm), and then train themselves only to use that as ammo that we somehow did it.

At the same time, I won't pretend our history has been squeeky clean. I already admitted my disdain at the way the situation with Remedy was handled months ago but I have yet to see that occur a second time.

[Loke]

I wasn't lying for my guild or to GMs. I simply told a friend that my OPINION was that IB probably wasn't involved in DA wiping. I had no problem admitting that. If IB leadership had asked me about it I probably would have told them the same thing. My opinion is my opinion and I've never had a problem with sharing it with anyone. That being said, my opinion isn't proof. I had nothing aside from personal experience and intuition to back that opinion up. If a screenshot of me stating an opinion was what got you dibs on a mob, I'm astounded that that was all it took.

My problem with Bossco is that he distributed screenshots of a private conversation without asking/telling me. It wasn't the content of the screenshot, just the act itself that bothers me. Furthermore, he tried to apologize for it, but upon realizing that I didn't know about it, he pretended the apology was a mistell and continued to act like my friend.

Originally Posted by erasong

My hope is Loke and Bossco can get past this and just not discuss anything guild related in the future that can be compromising. excuse the poor spelling.

I don't see this happening. Every one of my friends in a competing guild knows that I would never put guild drama infront of a friendship. If I can't trust a person enough to keep personal conversations private, then they're not a person I want as a friend.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My problem with Bossco is that he distributed screenshots of a private conversation without asking/telling me. It wasn't the content of the screenshot, just the act itself that bothers me. Furthermore, he tried to apologize for it, but upon realizing that I didn't know about it, he pretended the apology was a mistell and continued to act like my friend.

Not so cool.

[jilena]

Thank you guys for almost bringing back the level of drama seen on a true classic server. All we need now is for the leader of DA to threaten violence upon the leader of IB IRL and it will be just like the nameless all over again!

[Raren]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you guys for almost bringing back the level of drama seen on a true classic server. All we need now is for the leader of DA to threaten violence upon the leader of IB IRL and it will be just like the nameless all over again!

I dont think anyone will go that low