Trakanon Rotation

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody in a long time has complained about getting legitimately beaten. We complained mostly because you're a bunch of cheating sketchballs who have no scruples, as a guild anyways.

I'm not IB. I just appreciate the irony.

Until recently, IB refused to accept any rotation or agreement that didn't greatly favor them because they felt they would win a disproportionate amount of the open competitions. TMO complained and accused them of being greedy, conniving pixelnerds that would stop at nothing (read: rule lawyering, poopsocking, training, ninja-looting) to squeeze out every last pixel.

The day finally came when TMO overtook IB, and IB stomped off the server. Now as top dog, TMO has done all of the above that they were so infuriated with IB for having done.

Also, the "legitimately beaten" thing is a straw man. If we ask the defeated, nobody has ever been legitimately beaten. When VD beats you on Trak, it's -- and I quote -- "a fluke". When you beat VD, it's because you're socking and/or training. Etc, etc, forever and ever.

TMO is inarguably #1 right now. After so many months of complaining about IB, it'd be nice if you didn't follow so closely in their footsteps.

[heartbrand]

Everything in this thread is why contested spawns without PVP is retarded, happy to be on red.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Conclusions:
1) If VD can consistently kill Trak in ~4 mins EVERY TIME it pops and the %'s stay in the 50/50 range of VD vs TMO kills, I am guessing some form of rotation will be adopted.

2) IF it continues to take VD ~15 minutes from spawn to kill of Trak, then there will never be a rotation, because TMO will be getting every kill.

True for now. But don't forget the fact that you won't get any Traks if you're not actively socking it, regardless of how long it takes us to kill it.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to gringo

I dont see it that way, we just asked to be treated fairly. Im betting you didnt even read anything and just decided to troll the post, that in my opinion has been relative. I have read everything that has been posted and considered both sides of the issue. Sure my view is bias to my position, but i promiss you so is VD's, and we are trying to communicate if you dont like it, Doors that way >>>>

I have no dog in this fight. I don't play on P99 anymore nor do I plan to if Velious ever comes out. With that said Silent you're the best troll in TMO because you act like you honestly believe the BS that comes out of your mouth. Be treated fairly? By who? The ball is in your court. You guys are far and away the strongest and most organized guild on P99 now that IB is gone and it's not even close.

You guys are singlehandedly the dirtiest guild I've ever encountered in any game and you do it blatantly while feigning innocence and building these ridiculous forum campaigns to smear any competition. If the GMs secretly formed a guild, followed every rule in the book, and beat you TMO would be screaming about cheating, inside information, and begin the general bullshit you guys use to push guilds with less members around.

The one thing I can tell you about TMO is that you guys hate IB more than you like yourselves and with direction of your ire removed it was only a matter of time before you guys turned towards another guild. You act like you have good relations with all guilds besides VD but I have yet to see someone outside of TMO come and defend you guys. You say that VD should be working this out behind the scenes but your guild leader refuses to come to the table (something we always made public in IB is that you guys refused to negotiate until the last possible second). Somehow you've turned Cold into the bad guy for trying to better P99.

With all of that said, this will fall on deaf ears because the P99 forums have become TMO's playground.

[Newguy]

i bet IB makes it to VP on Eqmac b4 you guys work out a rotation

[Gwence]

TMO still shitting up the place I see, if anyone is suprised by this they should have there head checked.

I never really dealt with TMO other than watching there continued idiocy on the forums from like half there guild lol, if I had to guess I would estimate there guild is made up for people between the ages of 14-18 that live at home still... because holy shit if they are actually adults in society I can't even begin to comment on the seriousness of that problem.

All it takes is one sensible person though, hopefully you guys (vd and rest of server) can find that 1 person (in tmo) and work things out for the good of the server, because right now I can't imagine Nilbog is bothering to do anything in terms of server progression, why would he be?

[quido]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we ask the defeated, nobody has ever been legitimately beaten.

That's not really true and an unfair generalization. I'm not in denial about sometimes losing; it happens.

And I'm not trying to disparage the two Trak kills VD did get. Good for them for getting them, but in general, we won't be wiping to him, nor will we be leaving the lair for Talendor.

I am all for sharing, but know your place. VD proposing that they deserve as much as we do is an affront to our honor! Such claims must be met with fierce competition.

I'll tell you what I would be in favor of: Neither TMO nor VD competing on like one out of four mobs. At this point we have no interest in a rotation agreement with VD, but I'd still like to provide whoever's interested with a shot to try these encounters.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not IB. I just appreciate the irony.

Until recently, IB refused to accept any rotation or agreement that didn't greatly favor them because they felt they would win a disproportionate amount of the open competitions. TMO complained and accused them of being greedy, conniving pixelnerds that would stop at nothing (read: rule lawyering, poopsocking, training, ninja-looting) to squeeze out every last pixel.

The day finally came when TMO overtook IB, and IB stomped off the server. Now as top dog, TMO has done all of the above that they were so infuriated with IB for having done.

Also, the "legitimately beaten" thing is a straw man. If we ask the defeated, nobody has ever been legitimately beaten. When VD beats you on Trak, it's -- and I quote -- "a fluke". When you beat VD, it's because you're socking and/or training. Etc, etc, forever and ever.

TMO is inarguably #1 right now. After so many months of complaining about IB, it'd be nice if you didn't follow so closely in their footsteps.

That's complete horseshit, TMO never came to the table to discuss rotations. It was IB that pushed for the original Trak rotation and it was Rogean that forced TMO/IB to develop a rotation for VP.

For the record IB is by no means clean here, we did our fair share of shitty stuff to TMO just like they did to us. But people (and I know you call them out later in your post) need to stop acting like TMO was ever a victim of IB.

[Zapatos]

Ok. Then just do:

Slot 1: TMO and VD compete.
Slot 2: Open to the rest of the server minus tmo/vd.

Play nice now tmo?

[quido]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok. Then just do:

Slot 1: TMO and VD compete.
Slot 2: Open to the rest of the server minus tmo/vd.

Play nice now tmo?

Now that's asking a little much, don't you think?

Cmon, Vesica Dei.... how would you feel about 75% competition and 25% give to the server? This sounds pretty awesome to me!