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11-11-2011, 12:46 AM
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Snare 150MR : 86% 175MR : 90% 200MR : 93% Root 150MR : 80% 175MR : 85% 200MR : 88% [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] So your feedback is increase the default chance to land a snare/root spell to 10% (up from 5%) and move up snare and root resist by ~2% on average? Why didn't you just say so wermacht. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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#182
11-11-2011, 01:01 AM
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80% at 150mr is still too much big null, unless it has a greatly lessened duration. Stuns shouldn't be partials, just all or nothing.
I gotta say for all the people that come seeking classic EQ pvp, they sure want all kinds of changes made. Wtfs. | ||
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11-11-2011, 01:08 AM
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11-11-2011, 02:10 AM
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You have the best item in the game in every slot. You even have Plane of Sky quest items listed. So anywhere from 0-1% of the player base will have all those. You can't design a system around 0-1% of the player base. That's completely illogical and I don't consider it a valid example. One of the classes you posted is also a warrior, who receive +25MR bonus. You could box multiple accounts on VZTZ so items were much easier to get. It only took two people boxing 4 characters to get a Tranix crown. It would probably take like 6 unboxed, level 50's to kill Tranix on EQ live, then all 6 of you have to roll on it. Probably 1% of the server had that item on Sullon Zek pre-Luclin. NPC's were much easier to kill on VZTZ too, I tanked Innoruk from 80% to 0% while playing a level 50 ranger. It's hard even making an XP group on a real PvP server, let alone a Tranix or planes raid. So yea, I don't consider a Christmas list of the best items in the game in every slot a valid example. An unbuffed melee in normal gear is a real example and the numbers are as follows: On the monk, a legit MR value is 103MR : after Removing Tranix crown, replacing sky quest mask with lizardskin mask, removing sky quest shoulder wraps, removing Rakusha cloak, removing Cazic Thule loot bile choker. And that assumes 14MR Jacinth rings are actually common and you're wearing an Advisor Robe instead of Robe of the Lost Circle. If Jacinth rings aren't common, then it's 75. So anywhere from 75 for normal people to 123 for people with Jacinth rings + Tranix Crown and then your FR and CR are both like 25 STILL. Crowd control resists should be based around 100-125MR, NOT sky quest items. Quote:
This is a wonderful system if your idea of balance is making naked casters viable and fully geared melees non-viable. | ||||
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11-11-2011, 03:08 AM
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11-11-2011, 03:11 AM
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What's REALLY funny is that Null's dream monk items, which NOBODY will have, leaves his monk with 30PR, 30DR, 59FR, 40cold, and 1275 HP
One single Ice comet, which is going to hit for full every time against that, does 70% of your entire hp bar. One single ebolt does 89% of your HP bar. Stop trying to make casters paradise. Is it TOO MUCH TO ASK that people who almost die from ONE SINGLE SPELL resist crowd control spells at least 90% of the time??? Even if you resisted 100% of crowd control spells, it's STILL caster's paradise. They don't need MORE WELFARE crap on top of their already enormous damage. And NO, the answer is not to lower damage and leave crowd control spam in. Casters need high damage spells to be viable in 30vs30 fights and melee need at least 90% resistance to crowd control to be worth playing at all. The maximum amount of crowd control I will play with is having crowd control resist capped at 90% resist rate, and reaching that level against 125MR. If you want to land crowd control spells, you should have to debuff the person with tash or malo first. Debuff spells were a big factor on real PvP servers and were basically redundant on VZTZ. Give them the 50% PvP server debuff bonus if you want, I don't care. | ||
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11-11-2011, 04:01 AM
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resists just need to be scaled by era. classic gear has less resists.. so shit should be a little easier to resist. kunark has better gear, so more resists should be necessary to resist the same spell. and velious has even better resist gear, so.. even higher resists required
and yea we shouldn't assume everyone will be running around with max resists, because it would take quite some time for everyone to camp it all | ||
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