New Druid Advice from the experts

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find that last one particularly amusing: DSM was unaware that only a single person (not "other posters") agreed with him ...

As you can see, Loramin is unable to provide evidence for his claims, or rebut my points. He must resort to an ad populum fallacy. Thank you for admitting defeat.

The best part? He read that wrong too. "Other posters" was referring to the people who disagreed with me. We should really keep track of how many times Loramin misreads something.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're either fighting windmills or moving the goalposts, I don't think anyone said this?

Loramin is saying it:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone can see the reported drop rates here: https://wiki.project1999.com/Goblin_Gazughi_Ring, ranging from five minutes to ten hours, so I'll call it five hours. Now, those reports are likely from someone doing a two-spawn camp, but the low-level Druid can only hold a one-spawn camp, so let's double that to ten hours.

You can spend ten hours (maybe less if you are luckier) doing the exact same thing you would be doing anywhere else (killing mobs for XP), and get an incredible item that will help you level faster for 25 levels...

If everybody could spend 10 hours or less at level 12-24 to get Goblin Ring, they would have done it already, and the server would be flooded with low cost Goblin Rings.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If everybody could spend 10 hours or less at level 12-24 to get Goblin Ring, they would have done it already, and the server would be flooded with low cost Goblin Rings.

When I did it, the vast majority of people also doing it were charm classes or melees doing it for an alt. Those rings aren't going on the market. You're in a thread discussing doing that camp with the same motives.

Go do the camp and come tell us how many rings you'd be willing to farm to put on the market.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I did it, the vast majority of people also doing it were charm classes or melees doing it for an alt. Those rings aren't going on the market. You're in a thread discussing doing that camp with the same motives.

Go do the camp and come tell us how many rings you'd be willing to farm to put on the market.

If it can be sold, it will be sold. That is why the supply is high on all good items right now.

Unless you had another account you were playing on before Green came out (your join date is last year), you are underestimating how camped Blue was with a 1000+ population. People would have flooded the market years ago, like all the other good items.

[loramin]

P.S. To be fair, I should have noted there was one other poster on the DSM side. Back on page 1:

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

id much rather have a bigger hp pool and more az than gobby ring

not hard to break w/ invis

EDIT: I misread something and removed that quote like 0.5 second after I posted. But congrats, after collecting all those quotes I misread one (and it took me 0.5 seconds to fix): I'm a terrible person. Now, maybe try responding to the substance? Or better yet, don't?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EDIT: I misread something and removed that quote like 0.5 second after I posted. But congrats, after collecting all those quotes I misread one (and it took me 0.5 seconds to fix): I'm a terrible person. Now, maybe try responding to the substance? Or better yet, don't?

P.S. To be fair, I should have noted there was one other poster on the DSM side. Back on page 1:

You've misread at least three things so far:
1. You thought mana saving from Goblin Ring was "invis mana".
2. You claimed that I said "you must be level 45 before you could farm plat". You still haven't apologized for that after ranting about it for pages.
3. You tried to use an ad populum fallacy with that "other posters" quote.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. To be fair, I should have noted there was one other poster on the DSM side. Back on page 1:



EDIT: I misread something and removed that quote like 0.5 second after I posted. But congrats, after collecting all those quotes I misread one (and it took me 0.5 seconds to fix): I'm a terrible person. Now, maybe try responding to the substance? Or better yet, don't?

You're aware you can duck casts, right?

I charmed exclusively on both enc and druid 1-60 and never clicked a gobby ring. Its really not a big deal, just QoL.

Druid on a budget should definitely camp it for those levels where the XP is actually good, though! Why not play the lottery?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're aware you can duck casts, right?

I charmed exclusively on both enc and druid 1-60 and never clicked a gobby ring. Its really not a big deal, just QoL.

Druid on a budget should definitely camp it for those levels where the XP is actually good, though! Why not play the lottery?

So I'm charm fighting two gators, and both are low HP. Suddenly one crits my pet (or gets a few max hits in a row, same difference), and it's now down to 1%.

If I have the ring, I can instantly break charm before he dies, which would mean I get XP for him, instead of not.

If I duck I can ... watch my pet die (and his XP with him) ... from a crouched position?

[loramin]

And when I make a mistake (in this case, one that lasted literally seconds ... you must have been psychopathically refreshing the thread to even see it...) I acknowledge it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when I make a mistake (in this case, one that lasted literally seconds ... you must have been psychopathically refreshing the thread to even see my mistake ...) I acknowledge it.

Then please admit you were wrong when you quoted me saying "you need to be level 45 before you can farm plat". I never said that, and you implied it in multiple posts.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then please admit you were wrong when you quoted me saying "you need to be level 45 before you can farm plat". I never said that, and you implied it in multiple posts.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could respond point by point ... but it would just create more noise. No matter what I write, the disingenuous among us will keep responding, and the argument won't end.

So instead, I'll respond with a quote from the only human being to support your position on the Goblin Ring ... in this entire 20-page thread:

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i swear DSM is a high functioning AI