Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[Jimjam]

• Structure
• Routine
• Shared experiences
• Repeated, positive, ongoing interactions
• Belonging
• Self efficacy
• Self realisation/actualisation
• Socialisation
• Peer support
• Growth/mastery mindset/motivation
• Fosters community spirit
• Daily grass touching
• Results

Vs

• Perpetually indoors
• Isolation
• Social/Peer comparison mindset/motivation
• Dissonant sense of self
• Sleeplessness
• Paranoia
• Delusions and hallucinations
• Technically possible but no results except
• Poop in a sock

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Planned FTE Races

• Structure
• Routine
• Shared experiences
• Repeated, positive, ongoing interactions
• Belonging
• Self efficacy
• Self realisation/actualisation
• Socialisation
• Peer support
• Growth/mastery mindset/motivation
• Fosters community spirit
• Daily grass touching
• Results

Vs
Summer Camp Raid Meta

• Perpetually indoors
• Isolation
• Social/Peer comparison mindset/motivation
• Dissonant sense of self
• Sleeplessness
• Paranoia
• Delusions and hallucinations
• Technically possible but no results except
• Poop in a sock

[fortior]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

Wow, you're a toxic bugger aren't you?

Imagine getting so riled up about the idea of community sharing a spawn in an online video game.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, you're a toxic bugger aren't you?

Imagine getting so riled up about the idea of community sharing a spawn in an online video game.

There's nothing communal about a guy running to server staff to stop groups of people from voluntarily using their time and effort to hold down a camp. If you got the wool pulled over your eyes by his polite language then that's your problem.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing communal about a guy running to server staff to stop groups of people from voluntarily using their time and effort to hold down a camp. If you got the wool pulled over your eyes by his polite language then that's your problem.

Fortior, once again, you’re misrepresenting the situation. I didn’t just "run to server staff" to stop groups from holding down a camp. I petitioned the change, and I was instructed by the GMs to post on the forums and gather community feedback. After that, I asked the GMs what criteria were needed for the change to be considered.

There’s nothing underhanded about following the proper channels and seeking input from the community. If you’re going to criticize, at least get the facts straight.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing communal about a guy running to server staff to stop groups of people from voluntarily using their time and effort to hold down a camp. If you got the wool pulled over your eyes by his polite language then that's your problem.

You seem to be confused.

You're right that it's not a communal act to consult server staff and make a post, but he then appeals to the community, which is a communal act. He then proposes that the whole p99 community can share an element of game content instead of it being held down by a few guilds, allowed by current server and camp rules, which as with any other rules in this game can be subject to change.

Am I supposed to think this is a heinous act? That I am being deceived by this wolf in sheep's clothing? How dare he? Come on my guy, you're throwing vitriol here and it's not looking good.

I can see reasons for why people wouldn't wish for change and that's fine although I do think a considerable number are doing so for anything but altruistic reasons. And that's ultimately how it's going to be for most part. People who have something to lose, will say no. People who have something to gain will say yes.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be confused.

You're right that it's not a communal act to consult server staff and make a post, but he then appeals to the community, which is a communal act. He then proposes that the whole p99 community can share an element of game content instead of it being held down by a few guilds, allowed by current server and camp rules, which as with any other rules in this game can be subject to change.

Am I supposed to think this is a heinous act? That I am being deceived by this wolf in sheep's clothing? How dare he? Come on my guy, you're throwing vitriol here and it's not looking good.

I can see reasons for why people wouldn't wish for change and that's fine although I do think a considerable number are doing so for anything but altruistic reasons. And that's ultimately how it's going to be for most part. People who have something to lose, will say no. People who have something to gain will say yes.

He was told to appeal to the community, he had to be told that that was the way to go. Then just read the posts he makes in this thread: Loramin gave him good advice which he just discarded with a boilerplate response, same for several other posters. URN posters gave him good advice, same boilerplate responses. He has been completely disinterested in what other people have to say, only signal boosting people who agree with him. Note: URN requires no rule changes, keeps the content in the game, and requires no extra work on CSR's behalf.

I personally think he says the rudest things dressed up in polite language, and it's been very obvious from day 1:

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm really looking for the change to happen on P99, so right now I'm looking for the community to come together and agree on this type of change, so that the Project1999 staff can help in enforcing it.

Not looking for input, not shopping around for ideas to make for a more compelling player agreement pitch, but looking for the "community to [..] agree", so that whoever doesn't agree can be strongarmed through CSR enforcement (extra work for CSR). When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad your recent posts show that you're giving up. It's straight up funny that you have such little IRL charisma that you have to resort to cold calling for votes, and then even misjudge what people actually want.

Again, the fact that you initially tried to strongarm the community into a new ruleset by directly proposing a camp rule change to CSR showed what sort of person you are right from the original post, and I'm glad you just kept digging from there.

Fortior, let’s set the record straight. I asked people to look at the proposal and make their own decision, nothing more. If you see that as "cold calling," then you’re misunderstanding the situation. The term you’re looking for is "raising awareness", not everyone frequents the forums like you do.

As for proposing a camp rule change, that’s part of the process in any community-driven discussion. Trying to paint that as something negative just shows how far you’re reaching.

I’m here to discuss ideas and improve the game experience for everyone, not to get dragged into personal attacks. If you have something constructive to add, I’m all ears.

[Toxigen]

just give SWC to every char that dings 60

problem solved