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Old 09-23-2023, 11:05 PM
Snaggles Snaggles is offline
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No page one discussion continues on page twenty-five of a thread. By that times it’s taken on a life of itself and it’s mostly red yarn and magazine clippings.

No sane person would ever downplay the functional advantage of a JBB vs not having one while leveling up. Even in your high 40’s with an epic and fungi it’s a huge advantage. It does lose steam in the mid 50’s with an epic and fungi. Can a shaman still solo to 60? Of course. I did after stubbornly not wanting to buy back my JBB for the 5th time or swapping over my Fungi. I got my epic af 60. It was stupidly easy to solo the shaman because the class is very good.

The issue I see on the forums is trying to get bumper sticker advice on a very nuanced game. Depending on play style, level, budget, end goal, all this crap varies wildly. Nobody asks specifics nor do we define them in our responses.

My big axe to grind was arguing you can’t functionally JBB while casting all your dots, torping, and using Canni. I’ve tried. Pages later to realize the big debate was assuming only Pox, JBB, and pet for dps (note: I never watched the video…) I’ve done this same thing in Chardok and it works fine that way even if not my preference. I always double debuff with Sini and Malady in that situation for less resists (mana wasted and lower dps) but to each their own.
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Old 09-24-2023, 12:09 AM
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No page one discussion continues on page twenty-five of a thread. By that times it’s taken on a life of itself and it’s mostly red yarn and magazine clippings.

No sane person would ever downplay the functional advantage of a JBB vs not having one while leveling up. Even in your high 40’s with an epic and fungi it’s a huge advantage. It does lose steam in the mid 50’s with an epic and fungi. Can a shaman still solo to 60? Of course. I did after stubbornly not wanting to buy back my JBB for the 5th time or swapping over my Fungi. I got my epic af 60. It was stupidly easy to solo the shaman because the class is very good.

The issue I see on the forums is trying to get bumper sticker advice on a very nuanced game. Depending on play style, level, budget, end goal, all this crap varies wildly. Nobody asks specifics nor do we define them in our responses.

My big axe to grind was arguing you can’t functionally JBB while casting all your dots, torping, and using Canni. I’ve tried. Pages later to realize the big debate was assuming only Pox, JBB, and pet for dps (note: I never watched the video…) I’ve done this same thing in Chardok and it works fine that way even if not my preference. I always double debuff with Sini and Malady in that situation for less resists (mana wasted and lower dps) but to each their own.
I think it's really a comparison between Bane of Nife and JBB. Pox is just okay. Only 19 DPS for Pox, less than half of what Bane does. Also you will have to cast Insidious Decay ontop of Malo/Malosini to ensure that it lands, Malo doesn't lower disease resistance. It's not huge problem to lower the diesease resistance, it's annoying to have another debuff to worry about, especially since it will only increase your DPS by a measly 19. The pet is great, bane is great, but expensive, especially if you get any resists.
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Old 09-24-2023, 12:55 AM
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I mostly agree with you. IMHO Pox and the JBB at 60 have use but a lot more fine print than Bane. I’ve ranted about it for pages already [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] .
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Old 09-25-2023, 03:09 PM
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You can have JBB but you'll never have PD Robe. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:46 PM
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You can have JBB but you'll never have PD Robe. Hope this helps.
Vindi BP better. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-27-2023, 04:34 AM
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Vindi BP better. Hope this helps.
Yeah, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm going to have to agree with DSM on this one. The Vindi BP is way better than the PD robe. Also looks better than wearing a bath robe.
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Old 09-25-2023, 09:27 PM
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Off topic again. Omfg you fuckers are easily derailed. No wonder trains are a problem for you.
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Old 09-27-2023, 08:20 AM
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guardian robe is where the true sauce is at, noobs
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