aesthetic cat memes!!

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just last week I had a load of clothes that I had taken out of the drier and had on the kitchen table I was gonna transfer to my room

I got caught up makin food, and while I was doing that I look over and my cat is sitting on the load of clothes with “that look” on his face. I was like “are you pissing?” and start running over. He got a light slap on the face mid-piss and ran off to finish in his CLEAN litter box

First time he pulled that bullshit. He had taken a shit on my clothes in a hamper one time he snuck into my room, which is why he’s never allowed in my room or any bedroom for any reason [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cats get suuuuuper fuckin jealous of other humans coming around THIER human... so.. uhm. Maybe and they may not like the smell of ur detergent. Either something like that or it's bladder infection or diabetes. Or some other stress. Usually it's not cuz they are mad. More like high anxiety.

Could be your work and the strange scents from ppl you have contact with. Patience.

Does your cat have a box or nesting area that is sorta like all theirs, maybe with an old smelly shirt of urs they can share and feel safe in? Maybe a little secluded. They really love that shit and peeing on ur stuff is like their only way to tell u maybe. Could be worried u don't really accept them in your territory so they're going to the extreme with marking hoping you just become more comfortable around their scent.

Fixed? Not fixed? Male? Female? She could be in heat or trying to excite u and get ur attention.

Hope all this helps.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cats get suuuuuper fuckin jealous of other humans coming around THIER human... so.. uhm. Maybe and they may not like the smell of ur detergent. Either something like that or it's bladder infection or diabetes. Or some other stress. Usually it's not cuz they are mad. More like high anxiety.

Could be your work and the strange scents from ppl you have contact with. Patience.

Does your cat have a box or nesting area that is sorta like all theirs, maybe with an old smelly shirt of urs they can share and feel safe in? Maybe a little secluded. They really love that shit and peeing on ur stuff is like their only way to tell u maybe. Could be worried u don't really accept them in your territory so they're going to the extreme with marking hoping you just become more comfortable around their scent.

Fixed? Not fixed? Male? Female? She could be in heat or trying to excite u and get ur attention.

Hope all this helps.

Male, fixed. One time he raped me before I realized what was happening so he might be gay, IDK

He has a secluded litter box, he will just always prefer to shit or pee on clothes for some reason. These were clean from the drier with same detergent so no foreign smells

[starkind]

Weird. Idk rly then. Where'd u get him from? Could be just a learned behavior. And ya male cats will get horny.

Anyway it's not always about the bathroom it's about smells and territory. And security.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Male, fixed. One time he raped me before I realized what was happening so he might be gay, IDK

He has a secluded litter box, he will just always prefer to shit or pee on clothes for some reason. These were clean from the drier with same detergent so no foreign smells

I used to train dogs, so no idea if this would work on cats. I would often find myself re-creating circumstances with my clients to basically help successfully steer the outcome and correct the problem behavior. Or at least, take a run at it. Things went totally sideways sometimes, of course, it's a big reason why I've got a lot of dog bite stories.

I realize this sounds totally insane, but think of it from an animal's perspective. Have you tried peeing on pooping on your own clothes?

I've had some success with sponging urine into problem urination areas as a counter-marking thing for toilet training puppies, didn't always work obviously but it can be worth a shot if it's annoying

Cats aren't pack animals the same way dogs are so your results may vary wildly. You said it only happened the one time so hopefully it never does again, but try stuff and then if you get desperate, do your own marking.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I used to train dogs, so no idea if this would work on cats. I would often find myself re-creating circumstances with my clients to basically help successfully steer the outcome and correct the problem behavior. Or at least, take a run at it. Things went totally sideways sometimes, of course, it's a big reason why I've got a lot of dog bite stories.

I realize this sounds totally insane, but think of it from an animal's perspective. Have you tried peeing on pooping on your own clothes?

I've had some success with sponging urine into problem urination areas as a counter-marking thing for toilet training puppies, didn't always work obviously but it can be worth a shot if it's annoying

Cats aren't pack animals the same way dogs are so your results may vary wildly. You said it only happened the one time so hopefully it never does again, but try stuff and then if you get desperate, do your own marking.

I suffered a few bites trying to break up fights to the death between 2 female labs we had. Spraying them with a hose, hitting them, macing them right in the face, wouldn’t make them release their death grip on each other. I found the solution was to drag them to the pool and throw them in, then they had to let go or drown. Then block the steps and leash them as they swim out before they can re-clash. Eventually has to separate them or one was going to die

But shitting on my own clothes? I dunno man, I eat tons of creatine and protein, my shits are pretty dank

I’ll hold him down and shit on his face if he does it again, that will establish dominance

[robayon]

Just be careful with your sack if you do that.

I once got it in the eyelid from a cat claw, eyelids are very testicle-like skin, it tore a hole pretty good. Luckily he missed the eyeball itself.

Alpha rolling can be dangerous with some dogs, and with a cat I'd be even more wary of its success. They don't seem to quite submit as visibly as dogs, maybe I just don't see it or it happens fast. My two cats sometimes squabble but they never really get into combat.

Also, while I trained a lot of dogs by having the clients 'establish dominance', most modern research shows that dogs aren't as strictly hierarchy-based as we've traditionally thought of them as. We humanize them somewhat when we do that.

I hear a lot of the most modern effective dog training systems are a bit more carrot than stick. The system I taught was similar to Caesar Milan's, which while generally effective, some of the tactics you'd have to use with such a system would be downright dangerous.

I was frequently hired by people whose dogs had two out of three strikes, third strike they get executed. I would not even attempt to alpha roll a 200 pound violent mastiff, and the vast majority of human beings probably shouldn't or wouldn't either.

When training, if two dogs got to the point where they actively fought, I have already failed and lost control of the situation. Blankets, buckets of water can work, so can brute force. Hucking a dog into a pool is a great way to do it too.

Also, don't shit on your clothes. Pee on them. Pee is better, easier to work with. Pee on your clothes. Pee on your clothes for animal behavior influence.

[starkind]

My cats are assholes but not nearly this bad.

They are very habitual creatures too like lizards. Develop a routine where they pee in the same place every time and that could help. There's ways to do that I won't get into. It is really time consuming.

Cats don't really have alphas. You're either dangerous or prey or part of the troop. Dominance doesn't work with them really. And if you aren't there they will do whatever they like to do. You can scare them a bit and make them more cautious. You can end up with quite a neurotic cat that way.

Mine respect me. Only if I get up and hisss tho. If stay laying down or sitting down "I'm not important enough to listen too". Big problem with them clawing shit. They do have a small vocabulary and it even includes "out" which means to go to their cat room. Which they will reluctantly follow if I herd them. They do listen and follow commands only when they feel like it.

I sprayed that funky celery smelling stuff everywhere and that did help a little. It was just as short term a solution.

Most effective way gently picking them up and moving them over and over. And providing them their own stuff to claw.

You could throw a shirt down nexto their litter and sit with them all day and if they go for the shirt pick him up put him in the litter and paw it. Do that over and over for a week and just maybe...

Also you can give him his own room and litter in there with some clothes and let him mark it up for awhile until he figures out its nicer to sleep in the clothes than pee on them. And instead pee in his own litter.

Out cats have a small mudroom plus outside cage. They do like their rooms cleaned occasionally too. When we clean in the house it's a race to get their scent on everything. Tho I don't have the peepeeepooo problem you have. Also I agree with Rob. Nextime he's on or near or investigating your "clean clothes" sponge some pee and move him to his litter. Pee is sterile. Anyways. You do have old clothes you don't care about? Maybe his environment just is too "boring" and he can't keep enough of his scent around.

Look up cat pee problems tho and find a guide. Mine was easy. My cat just needed insulin. Tho.

Maybe even easier just to squirtgun him and his every time he's about to pee or poop somewhere wrong. Then spray the "no go there cent (buy in pet store). Everytime. Should take like a month or so. He'll eventually get the idea.

He could just be having horrible anxiety attacks around you and your clean clothes so you don't want to escalate that to when there's no clean clothes.

I mean he just may need to spend more time with you and interact more so he feels safer and more comfy in "his home". You're probably an intruder to him and he doesn't know how to establish a report without peeepeepooopooo. Which in the wild they do when taking turns over shared territory. You need to hack that behavior. Leave a peed on shirt near his litter or something idk. Rly. I barely grasp basic cat. Pee is really important to them. For sure tho.

Hope this helps and gg. Cats are pretty weird.

[starkind]

So like a funny anecdote. My cats are smart enough to know who is getting hissed at for what. If they aren't doing anything wrong they will generally ignore my hisses lol. The one doing the bad will run off chastised. Sometimes they are definitely getting negative reinforcement. (That's bad, when their bad behavior is getting them what they want, my attention for example). Mine don't really get it right 50/50 of the time they get my attention in a good way. Negative reinforcement is super tricky to deal with in humans too.


Also cats are pretty much all short term memories outside of routine. So like a 4 year old can be told it's cold outside and they won't remember to wear a coat until they are actually outside and its cold. Cats are exactly like that.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Negative reinforcement is super tricky to deal with in humans too.

Yeah, it's tricky. With most animals I see it as them being locked in the present, mostly. They have memories, and they have the ability to anticipate actions, but anticipation is based on their prior experiences with a given action.

A lot of dogs get bitten by snakes, since venom can take time to take effect and become lethal. I was hired by a lot of people to instill fear of snakes in their dogs for this reason. I literally kept a bunch of them in my trunk, a few of which I had attached to fishing line. Fake ones, that is.

I'd hide behind a tree or something out back, they'd avoid letting the dog see me set up there. On a cellphone call, I'd tell them to let the dog out and begin investigating, then I'd yank the line and make the snake move. The moment, the very second the dog notices the snake, the client was supposed to correct the hell out of the dog, both verbally and with a non-harmful corrective device - but from somewhere out of sight so the dog doesn't even know who was doing the correction. Usually up in a bathroom window that was open. We'd previously have tricked the dog in to thinking that the whole family had gone out and left them behind. Timing was key. Usually the best corrective device for this might be a few bags of warm water, just cheap ziploc bags.

The idea was to create, from the dog's perspective, the moment the dog begins to investigate the snake, god screams at them and water falls out of the sky, splashing near them suddenly and startingly. They could also just be in the yard with the dog and actively correct it, but the problem was that a lot of dogs might run in to the snake without other 'pack members' around. Just chilling in the backyard by itself.

It was a bit stilted, but it usually at least created some doubt and maybe taught the dogs to avoid the snake. It worked best on dogs that responded well to water corrections, or dogs that were simply high-strung enough a loud can of pennies might also work. Slamming metal trash can lids together, stuff like that.

People with chickens in their backyard rarely have this problem.

[starkind]

Ya good advice. My feral outside cats kell all snek ded. Really gud. Nevurrrr loze.

Y r dogs bad @ life?