It's official: Riot is done.

[Trexller]

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-Xev

[Nutsax]

From today.

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are way more petitions now than their ever has been.

From 10 days ago.

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GMs hate dealing with petitions, and I get that, but looking at these numbers its really isnt some inordinate amount of times that we have to rely on them to settle something and the constant lies and hyperbole listed by the quoted above and just straight misinformation.

Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Nutsax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From today.



From 10 days ago.



Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

I think he meant like compared to how many raids / dragons are actually contested. Like 2 petitions out of 300 raids. Not that there aren't a lot of petitions in general just compared to amount of raids....I said same thing twice but I think I explained it right /nod

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he meant like compared to how many raids / dragons are actually contested. Like 2 petitions out of 300 raids. Not that there aren't a lot of petitions in general just compared to amount of raids....I said same thing twice but I think I explained it right /nod

Percentage vs actual, whatever fits his narrative that day gotchya /nod.

[remen]

Originally Posted by Nutsax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From today.



From 10 days ago.



Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

Within the last 10 days Criot put in two petitions and is going to put in two more. This may come as a shock to you, but situations can change!

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swiftyfist was given three chances to get 70% when anyone else was denied after one failed vote.

Teraclon had 70% yes+extend and wasn't given another 30 days because of a personal vendetta.

Reddarok quit over it I remember, said there was no point in the recruitment process since it wasn't being followed.

Little known fun fact, I also didn't get 70% and was let was let in by Aikons/Detoxx. In fact the first raid I ever went to in AM, someone loudly exclaimed in Teamspeak "Who the fuck let Twochain in the guild, he's like Caiu but worse" - Which to this day is just about the worst insult i've ever received in game or out. If Detoxx didn't let me in, I probably wouldn't still be playing here. There was nothing left for me to do outside of raids, and I was very bored of farming fungi tunics. (Which is where I received the bad reputation from, it's almost impossible to lock down a camp like that all the time and not be hated for it)

I feel like Detoxx let swiftyfist in because he felt bad that everyone essentially hated on him because he sounded like an idiot.... come to find out he was an idiot. Remember the time he said he needed the piece for his clerics epic on a guild chardok clear and he sold the MQ like 2 days later? LMAO

Teraclon.... you know why tf teraclon wasn't let in. WHO CALLS CHEANNA A BITCH? SHE'S A FUCKIN SAINT... also it's a little different when someone gets booted out of a guild vs applies for the first time. Teraclon legit had beef with just about every single officer in the guild. Hot headed ass frenchie was pretty nasty in VP though.

WTS Name: Teraclown pst

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Little known fun fact, I also didn't get 70% and was let was let in by Aikons/Detoxx. In fact the first raid I ever went to in AM, someone loudly exclaimed in Teamspeak "Who the fuck let Twochain in the guild, he's like Caiu but worse" - Which to this day is just about the worst insult i've ever received in game or out. If Detoxx didn't let me in, I probably wouldn't still be playing here. There was nothing left for me to do outside of raids, and I was very bored of farming fungi tunics. (Which is where I received the bad reputation from, it's almost impossible to lock down a camp like that all the time and not be hated for it)

I feel like Detoxx let swiftyfist in because he felt bad that everyone essentially hated on him because he sounded like an idiot.... come to find out he was an idiot. Remember the time he said he needed the piece for his clerics epic on a guild chardok clear and he sold the MQ like 2 days later? LMAO

Teraclon.... you know why tf teraclon wasn't let in. WHO CALLS CHEANNA A BITCH? SHE'S A FUCKIN SAINT... also it's a little different when someone gets booted out of a guild vs applies for the first time. Teraclon legit had beef with just about every single officer in the guild. Hot headed ass frenchie was pretty nasty in VP though.

WTS Name: Teraclown pst

Yea my point was that guilds often circumvent their recruitment processes. Riot wasn't unique in doing it. It's never a good thing though, just an illusion of democracy over a dictatorship. For example I could easily pass a VQ vote but my app would never be taken in. Again, hypocrisy... to be mad about unilateral application decisions and then turn around and do the exact same thing

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea my point was that guilds often circumvent their recruitment processes. Riot wasn't unique in doing it. It's never a good thing though, just an illusion of democracy over a dictatorship. For example I could easily pass a VQ vote but my app would never be taken in. Again, hypocrisy... to be mad about unilateral application decisions and then turn around and do the exact same thing

I disagree, first of all, the only people who were blacklisted from guilds, that I ever heard of, were people who blatantly trained and got booted. I think A/A Had an agreement that if one guild booted somebody because of a raid dispute (Riptoes style), that the other guild would not allow them to app. Other than that, even Siryado had a chance in AM. Literally everyone could get a chance. At the end of the day there, if AM had beaten Riot, and Riot died, Arcler and friends would DEFINITELY be allowed to apply. Kelz was the most hated person in AM days, there were lots of flames and name calling there. Then kelz was allowed to app AM, and he became loved. Here's another example. Detoxx thought Fur was a cheater ETC ETC. Detoxx probably called Fur every name in the book while AM was dying. Come to find out, he wasn't cheating, he just practiced. In literally no time at all, Detoxx and Fur went from hated enemies to being in the same guild together in WoW, to becoming friends, and ultimately making Freedom.


Now Vanquish is a different guild than Aftermath. However at the end of the day, I can't imagine you wouldn't be allowed to app (Even though you vowed to never join Vanquish) because of some shit slinging on RnF. It's not that deep. Arcler probably isn't allowed to app though lmao


Now speaking of Application processes.... When Ghxst finally kicked the bucket, I applied to Riot. I had a nice interview with a recruitment officer which turned into like a 2 hour chat about raiding on p99 and old war stories. She was really cool. Name is slipping me though, maybe she was German? Anywho, after that interview, I was told that I needed not one but TWO people to vouch for me before I could even formally apply to the guild. Not only that, but people couldn't vouch for more than one recruit at the same time.

At the time, I wasn't playing p99 much. I knew I had old AM friends in Riot, but WHO? Who even still played? I spent some time /who riot all, not recognizing anyone, asked the recruitment officer if I could have a list of their raiders to see who I could even ask, and the people that I WAS seeing and recognizing were already "Vouches" for other people.

I mean here I was, an Abashi monk with a laundry list of 60 toons I could play, I'm good at the game, I don't cause trouble, and have been a raider on the server for 4 years at this point, know what to do in just about every raid encounter on every class, have been told that I am funny, and I need two vouches to even apply???

That, my friend, was the most grueling application process for a guild i'd ever encountered. And certainly the highest bar to apply to a guild on p99 that I have ever personally seen, Maybe Rampage or TMO was worse, but I wasn't really around the raid scene than. Thankfully, 3 or 4 days later, Detoxx hit me with the "Yo ride with me one last time". Because I was at a loss, and had very little motivation to seek out people who would vouch for me to kill uncontested dragons.

So no, I disagree. AM's application process was as fair and unbiased as possible. We raided in AM for years and the only two people to come up with were Swiftyfist and Teraclon... out of what, 1000+?? And the controversy with swiftyfist was that he was LET IN. And Teraclon was already in AM for years before he was booted. Also two terrible examples to hang that flag on and you know this =P

[Nexii]

Teraclon was not a bad example. Why string someone for 30 days on a re-app only to uniliterally deny them, no matter what the vote was saying

Can't always say leadership is right cause they're not, it was a shitty thing to do

[Ripqozko]

Riot would never give me a shot to app cause they take rnf shit talking serious.

Vanquish would, ez choice.