Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can also increase bans. 10 day seems weak in my opinion, losing a few cycles only. 30-day minimum.

This is why random jury system is pretty fucked up - youll poll from people who have ingrained innate bias towards another group and allow their predetrmined emotions to filter into the case without even looking at the evidence.

If you think a 30 day raid ban for a free game is 'fair' for a minimum punishment here taking into consideration most these violations are made up after examining hours of recorded Everquest raiding footage frame by frame, then you need to adjust your morale compass.

10 Day blanket raid ban has been the harshest penalty to date and its insane this is not enough blood for the casuals lol

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

taking into consideration most these violations are made up after examining hours of recorded Everquest raiding footage frame by frame

this is really why we need publicly view-able raid petitions - gets a lot harder to make shitty disingenuous claims when those claims and the evidence backing them are out in the open

making raid petitions public would go a long way toward removing some of the toxxicity in the raid scene

[Mortiis]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why random jury system is pretty fucked up - youll poll from people who have ingrained innate bias towards another group and allow their predetrmined emotions to filter into the case without even looking at the evidence.

If you think a 30 day raid ban for a free game is 'fair' for a minimum punishment here taking into consideration most these violations are made up after examining hours of recorded Everquest raiding footage frame by frame, then you need to adjust your morale compass.

10 Day blanket raid ban has been the harshest penalty to date and its insane this is not enough blood for the casuals lol

Agreed. However without knowing the full story or history of the p99 raid scene or how it's handled for anyone inquiring on what's 'in store' for them, all one has to do is just read guild and raid discussion. That's it. (RNF is just pure work comedy gold) It's the first thing I did. Nothing but raid suspension, more rule clarifications/verifications, surrendering, and conceding all from the same frequent flyers every time, all the time.

I understand the spirit of competition, we all do. No one is looking for handouts. You try, you fail, you learn. But after this weekends outcome, how in the fuck has there not been some sort of rotation? Not every guild can do ToV, some probably don't give a rats ass. I just don't understand the level of absurdity. I really don't.

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can also increase bans. 10 day seems weak in my opinion, losing a few cycles only. 30-day minimum.

Should we count the number of raid infractions that happened over the past few days? You act like A/A are the only ones who make mistakes. On the contrary, they are the only ones to petition each other.

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should we count the number of raid infractions that happened over the past few days? You act like A/A are the only ones who make mistakes. On the contrary, they are the only ones to petition each other.

you're also right about variance quakes.

[EdTuBrutus]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IF they removed variance, did bunch of earthquakes, etc.. all that would change is A/A would gear alts faster.

There are only so many alts you want to gear. Even for A/A.

If they can completely gear their toons within a given period of time, multiple toons, then they quit. And having a few dozen people in that position quit, freeing up content for hundreds of others is a huge positive for the game, its player base and its long term future.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by EdTuBrutus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are only so many alts you want to gear. Even for A/A.

If they can completely gear their toons within a given period of time, multiple toons, then they quit. And having a few dozen people in that position quit, freeing up content for hundreds of others is a huge positive for the game, its player base and its long term future.

dont think you understand them that well, they wont quit, they cant stop wont stop, p diddy style.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by EdTuBrutus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are only so many alts you want to gear. Even for A/A.

If they can completely gear their toons within a given period of time, multiple toons, then they quit. And having a few dozen people in that position quit, freeing up content for hundreds of others is a huge positive for the game, its player base and its long term future.

You'd think so, but history shows otherwise.

Compulsive gamblers don't quit when they've won enough money.

[fiveeauxfour]

Can we have the option at char creation to get full bis characters?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by fiveeauxfour [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we have the option at char creation to get full bis characters?

Clearly this is what everyone is arguing for and the inevitable conclusion. You saved everyone here and staff alike a great deal of time by cutting right to it. Thank you for your insightful suggestion.