there shall be no more Jinger tears on red.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by QuantumZebra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... the toxic culture has truly had its effects on the server.

Im genuesly curous, what is toxic behavior on red?

Hacking seems pretty nil or at least confined to people that I cant figure out how or if they do it.. boxing is definitly more rampant than blue, but I cant say Ive seen much of it maybe like 2-3 times in 6 months..

Whats toxic? I get people crying to me about killing them.. Is that toxic? Should we not be pvping?

Serrrs question.

[baue1446]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im genuesly curous, what is toxic behavior on red?

Hacking seems pretty nil or at least confined to people that I cant figure out how or if they do it.. boxing is definitly more rampant than blue, but I cant say Ive seen much of it maybe like 2-3 times in 6 months..

Whats toxic? I get people crying to me about killing them.. Is that toxic? Should we not be pvping?

Serrrs question.

Actively training 30+ man raids with 3-4 people. I would say thats Toxic.

I do find it funny that you think what you are doing is PVP. Your guild will almost NEVER engage in a fair fight. Its either you out gear the person by a ton or have 4 levels on them. Rarely do I ever see you engage someone who might pose a challenge. You only engage "sure wins" .

If you think you are good at PVP cause you can kill someone 4 lvls below you in garbage gear.. you have another thing coming. If you actually SEE a decent PVPer in zone you actively try and avoid them. Ive seen you guys running from brobby and June. But when you see an easy mark you hunt and torment them trying to get your Yellow text.

Pathetic. PVP is one thing but what you are doing is not pvp and its sad you think it is.

[Trophy Scars]

Originally Posted by knix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am done with Red. LNS policy is chronically broke by Empire's minions.
Guild culture is set by the leaders, and by the guild leaders/officers not setting the culture right for their guild AND not being punished for it, ie guild suspended for numerous infractions. But, what incentive is there currently to have empire self discipline or set the culture for its members? the answer is none.

There have been a few people in empire that are cool, and understand that pvp is a challenge, not just killing someone over and over at their bind or before they have rez effect gone or DA/DB refreshed.

I couldn't the the LNS part of the PNP to work for me either way, first trying only calling once in ooc, then shouting in the zone i was in.
*Well, then I was killed naked by an empire who said they just zoned in and didn't see the shout or the ooc and they cannot be held accountable for that.

*Also was killed when zoning into the zone where my body was from the first YT, and was engaged before i had fully loaded into the zone, and empire told me, you can't shout lns, after you are engaged.

*also killed by empire while sitting next to my body spamming ooc and shout lns, less than 15 min from YT.

*also killed by some empire who thought i had been on LNS too long, my body was deep in kael, it wasnt an easy CR.

** also engaged by someone who wanted me to run accross EW before i could even get my hit points up or DA/DB refreshed. they refreshed and i left where i was sitting being harassed by empire, and he followed me half up the kael ramp and engaged me so i had to burn my da/db for him to stop attacking, then left me, without my da/db, 1/2 hit points no buffs, to run across EW.

One time, it worked as it should, i was on LNS, (from a valid pvp kill not complaining about valid pvp death) and was trained by an empire SK, who eventually got my body dragged to zone in.

but, 1 out of 6, in which all the other times were petition-able. I didn't come to red to play petition quest. I was leaving blue to get away from petitionquest. I can't be part of the change to the server, because frankly I have a life and I am not going to waste it dealing with you nerds here.


I wanted everquest with honorable pvp. There is no honor standard in PVP on Red.
I will miss my red guildmates.

Go back to blue.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The population can't police itself. It will never happen. Red is going to dwindle back down to 100's and they'll all be <Empire> because no one else will be geared enough to contest at all.

I'm a casual dude with some 60s, but due to euro hours + job I hardly raid. Empire offers me a lasting home, I'd have quit without that.

Dat evil empire, keeping low-beard nerds like me around.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

under 300 pop in velious is pretty surprising

to me at least

glad it wasn't just me thinking that people would be returning en masse

guess they were all agatha alts

[HippoNipple]

TMO thought they were going to log on Red and raid Velious.


LOL Trolled.

[Uton]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO thought they were going to log on Red and raid Velious.


LOL Trolled.

^^^

[magician]

honestly you should kick tiggles out for dragging your sorry asses to this server

[Seltius]

People talk about raiding velious like its only doing TOV, Vindi,Tormax, Statue, a few dragons,and Dain. Most probably never played through it on live. There were very few if any guilds geared the way they are on P99. Most of the guilds weren't even VP keyed(there were tons of guilds on live raiding and experiencing Velious at the same time) but still raided. Basically TMO has started that time period over only difference is the knowledge now of the fights. I am a little more practical in the fact I understand both how difficult it will be on a pvp server and in getting people to learn fights and work together to accomplish successful raids. Empire has had years of working together in some cases vs TMO who is only recently on this server and has basically had a reset and needs to learn to work with cohesion and also obtain gear. We had people upgrading Cured Silk and tattered cloth(or whatever the level 1 skeletons drop) last night. That says something any upgrade is better than none.

[Ruinous]

Originally Posted by XiakenjaTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, there is your proof. I just loaded in, saw you and started to cast before you even said LNS.

Did not read this thread but this poster obviously deserves an in-game suspension for OPENLY ADMITTING to breaking the rules in this post.

You started the spell before seeing her say LNS, that's fine.

She called LNS in two different ways.

You continued to channel the spell despite having not damaged her up to this point.

Funny, if you start casting on a mob but a melee runs in and tags it first, do you continue channeling the spell? Nope. You'd be KSing.

Empire, police your goddamn members for once.