extremist muslims get lit up in texas

[GradnerLives]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh yeah? Got any quotes?

You've referred to the practice of a satirical cartoon drawing festival as a terrorist baiting exercise multiple times.

You've outright stated that it was their goal to be shot at by extremists, rather than to get together and have a few chucks over an absurd 3rd world pretension that we have the right to not be scared of (read: what it actually was).

Hence blaming the cartoon festival attendees.

U nuts, b?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by jarshale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the fuck who added the word extremist to my thread title?

Also, the addition of 'extremist' is technically incorrect. Views diametrically opposed to those of the West are common among Muslims.

Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/
Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/201...-of-expression
ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html
Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/
WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
65%% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/40...fundamentalism
Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865
World Public Opinion (2009)
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf
NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected
1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...ate=2011-04-06
People Press Surveys
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/...fter-iraq-war/
Belgian HLN
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml
ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Al-Jazeera (2006):
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden
Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist
GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...ate=2011-04-06
MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01...riah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-...ion-in-canada/
al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...10/166274.html
Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...like-us-really
Policy Exchange:
1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've referred to the practice of a satirical cartoon drawing festival as a terrorist baiting exercise multiple times.

You've outright stated that it was their goal to be shot at by extremists, rather than to get together and have a few chucks over an absurd 3rd world pretension that we have the right to not be scared of (read: what it actually was).

Hence blaming the cartoon festival attendees.

U nuts, b?

That's not what I've said at all. You probably didn't quote any specific examples because you know they don't exist. Now, when it comes to people who would attend such a rally (hate mongers) vs Muslim extremists, I could see myself not caring which ones die. But I care the most about people unaffiliated with either party.

My position has always been that I do not want people copying Pamela Geller's rally with the intent on luring more extremists out. I do not want a bomb detonating at a Stop Islamization of America rally and taking out several city blocks of civilians. The more rallies that occur, the higher the probability of something tragically bad happening.

[Champion_Standing]

Like I said the only way to make 100% sure that you don't make Muslims want to kill you is to convert.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said the only way to make 100% sure that you don't make Muslims want to kill you is to convert.

Because they do not openly kill other Muslims?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not what I've said at all. You probably didn't quote any specific examples because you know they don't exist. Now, when it comes to people who would attend such a rally (hate mongers) vs Muslim extremists, I could see myself not caring which ones die. But I care the most about people unaffiliated with either party.

My position has always been that I do not want people copying Pamela Geller's rally with the intent on luring more extremists out. I do not want a bomb detonating at a Stop Islamization of America rally and taking out several city blocks of civilians. The more rallies that occur, the higher the probability of something tragically bad happening.

Would you rather that tragedy happen where there's a force of emergency responders already in place ready to address such a tragedy, or would you rather it happen on a college campus or at a train station?

The people who carry out these attacks are already radicalized. A cartoon of Muhammad is not what's setting them off. They aren't just living a normal life and then hear about someone drawing a picture they don't like and only then, at that moment, decide they should kill people.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A cartoon of Muhammad is not what's setting them off.

Well they did drive all the way from Phoenix to specifically target this rally. Unless you know of any other business they might have had in Texas...

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because they do not openly kill other Muslims?

That's a fucking stupid question. Of course they do, but tell me when a Muslim kills another Muslim what are the typical reasons?

[Ezalor]

the MOOZLIMS are coming! the MOOZLIMS are coming!

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well they did drive all the way from Phoenix to specifically target this rally. Unless you know of any other business they might have had in Texas...

The point is, giving up our free speech rights is not a solution to the problem. Those assholes also tried to go to the other side of the world to kill people, unless you know of any other business they might have had there...