ninja looting or no?

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

duckwalk saraya's alt account

Lol

[Eunomia]

To reiterate because I typed it wrong and edited:

Logging off to switch characters does not forfeit these rights.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus 5/2/2012

When you kill a mob you own the loot rights to that mob.

There is established precedence here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...19&postcount=1

Technically, if you kill an orc and run off a newbie looting that rusty axe is stealing your loot. That said, no one ever goes after the newbie. Because you ran away, you are likely ratifying his actions implicitly.

I would suggest you leave clear and documented instructions to the guy hovering around you that you will be logging to your alt and that under no circumstances do you cede the rights to your kill.

The only counter argument to Rogean's post that I see is that his post was in reference to a VP dragon kill. That said, he has clearly indicated this is an individual and not a raid level dispute.

TLDR: You kill it, you own it. If you told the guy to stay away, that additional evidence is unrequired, but helpful to your case.

Originally Posted by Eunomia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To reiterate because I typed it wrong and edited:

Logging off to switch characters does not forfeit these rights.

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[khanable]

hooray the thread is finally over

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hooray the MULTIPLE THREADS is finally over

[fadetree]

To be fair as well, I never claimed it was true...just stated my opinion that I didn't think it would be.

[freez]

bla bla bla bla

[Duckwalk]

I call em like I see em.

Did BDA violate any server rules? No.

Was it kind of a dick move to leap frog a new unguilded player? Kinda.

VT isn't frenzy and it isn't naggy however employing FTE raid tactics against someone unguilded/new to the raid scene without even making an attempt to communicate with them strikes me as kinda an asshole move. Especially considering the lengths BDA has gone to to change the server culture.

[Kekephee]

Hard to communicate with someone when you don't even know they're in the zone because they haven't said a goddamn word to you, know what I mean? I'll accept the position that it's a dick move to ignore someone who's trying to communicate with you, but I'm telling you that wasn't a "BDA" dick move. It wasn't the entire guild doing it. The best you can do with that argument is maybe Pricilla didn't communicate enough with the enchanter- but here's the thing, we have no idea what communications occurred between them because no one has talked about that. And even if we did, if Saraya can be defended for losing her shit and ninjalooting because the big bad raiding guild stoled her monster, then Pricilla can be excused for being too busy trying to get the guild to send people to help her kill her epic mob that she'd been waiting for for however many weeks to answer a tell from someone incapable of killing that epic mob making a spurious claim to that epic mob ten, thirty minutes in the future.

[Duckwalk]

Per Saraya in original post - "3. When Verina spawned I said to Pricila I have people on the way within several minutes (do I have to give names for witnesses?). I would think that it fair to give me a chance.

This whole time, BDA saw me both in Verina's room and during the fight. No one talked to me, no one tried to communicate."

Maybe I missed the log or another version of the encounter.