New map desktop app coming soon (as long as it's still kosher with p99 rules)

[Mirox]

Wow, people are getting very upset by a simple mapper. I am afraid of what will happen when they get released with way more options than have been shown so far.

[mipstien]

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[HawkMasterson1999]

Originally Posted by Mirox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, people are getting very upset by a simple mapper. I am afraid of what will happen when they get released with way more options than have been shown so far.

You're close. We are upset because this is more than a simple mapper. Just like you, we anticipate more options. The potential for unfair competitive advantage in using log files in this way is a lot greater than some of you realize.

This is a game of margins. It doesn't have to be god mode to be an advantage.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by HawkMasterson1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The potential for unfair competitive advantage in using log files in this way is a lot greater than some of you realize.

Doesn't go far enough, imo. Staff need to find out what the /played per week is for the 10th percentile of playtime on the server and then enforce limits on playtime per week for the whole playerbase. It wouldn't be perfect of course, the 1st through 9th percentile players would still be getting screwed out of a fair shake, but it would go a long ways to limit the competitive advantage that people who can play more than others.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by HawkMasterson1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're close. We are upset because this is more than a simple mapper. Just like you, we anticipate more options. The potential for unfair competitive advantage in using log files in this way is a lot greater than some of you realize.

This is a game of margins. It doesn't have to be god mode to be an advantage.

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[HawkMasterson1999]

I very well could be crazy but i'm also right about everything I've said in this thread.

[Kika Maslyaka]

my 2cp:

-On one hand the log reader could be considered classic cause technologically it COULD have existed back then due to its relative simplicity

-On another hand it didn't existed back then.

Its an issue similar to boxing - yes boxing WAS possible in 99, but it would cost you twice as much to run it, so only 1% did it.

Same here, even though this feature COULD have existed in 99 - it didn't [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But what I really find funny here is that almost 99% of the people in this thread happily accept a new method of circumventing disabling of maps by the Devs - this is showing how much people actually want CLASSIC EXPERIENCE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[quido]

I think they need to flag Ventrilo and Teamspeak as disallowed third party apps and add some enforcement to the DLL. Shit's not classic.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CLASSIC EXPERIENCE

Almost no one has fond memories of classic EQ because of dial up disconnects or spending an hour lost in a zone or having to wait until tonight to ding because you have to go to school right now. They have fond memories because of the ingame mechanics and environments... stuff that is not affected by reading logs.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Almost no one has fond memories of classic EQ because of dial up disconnects or spending an hour lost in a zone or having to wait until tonight to ding because you have to go to school right now. They have fond memories because of the ingame mechanics and environments... stuff that is not affected by reading logs.

Well dial up disconnects and parents screaming at you to go to sleep at 2am were not really intended by the game designers as part of experience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Not having maps and getting lost - sort of were.
Of course everyone hates getting lost, getting killed and loosing their corpse with hard earn newbie gear - but that was part of original design.

But all that aside, the MOST important part of Classic Experience - is being new to the game - being a newbie. Exploring and finding out things for the first time, being surprised, overjoyed, scared, shocked etc. That part is GONE. You will never be newbie again, unless someone wipes out your mind, you will never truly relieve those experiences. At most you can hope to go the places you remember fondly and feel some nostalgia.