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Old 12-29-2009, 09:15 PM
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Some things to think about.

- Soon other guilds will also be able to go to POF and POH once it opens up, what then?

- Where do we draw the line? Someone suggested earlier rotating the ishva mal, this sounds ridiculous to me.

- Forced rotation let's players be less competitive. Everquest is a competitive game, if you want the best stuff you have to be competitive.


Ideally, guild leaders should be able to negotiate with each other, but there will always be problems. These problems are part of everquest, it is a competitive game, there will always be "winners" and "losers".

GM's should step only when another guild shows up and tries to take control; e.g., a guild is preparing for CT and another guild shows up and begins preparing also.

I was in a good guild many years ago, we would periodically set up rotations with other guilds, and we would often race other guilds to targets. If we mobilized first, the other guild had enough respect to leave the zone. Our guild leader handled all negotiations with other guilds, and things were usually civil.

Officers and other members rarely had any part in the negotiations, it was always our guild leader who took control when it came to major targets. This worked very well for us, and it was the reason we were so successful.

I am not suggesting that this is how it should be, the guild leader making all decisions, but if you have solid guild leader and he is making all negotiations with other guild leaders, this results in less drama because less people are involved. I see a lot of people making comments(in another thread) and I know they cannot all be guild leaders[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let the leader speak for the guild, and send your complaints his/her way, let him/her do their job and lead.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:52 PM
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That's part of the problem. I like a majority of Transcendence, but their leadership is a bunch of dumb kids.
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:52 PM
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What's with the long posts? Hasbin is my guildie but... shit I am not reading that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:00 PM
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Trans leaders think charming mobs that proc shadow step to fight raid mobs is a good idea.

They are so bad that we actually lose out on raid mobs due to their lack of skill. i.e. Draco, Vox
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:15 PM
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Wow I made a post 3-4 pages ago and it gets completely ignored and drowned out by the exact same fucken childish banter.

IB/Trans bullshit on and on and on and on and on.

Amazing, you guys have fun measuring your e-dicks against each other on emulated server doing 10 year old content, try thinking about more than just yourselves and your respective elitist poop socking guilds for 5 seconds, you've involved the entire GM staff and development team in this bullshit while the rest of the server sits at the side lines watching you dicks set the precedent for how things "will be done" in the future. (This is the part where my characters get black listed and treated like shit because of my personal opinion and not taking sides with Guild A or Guild B)

I honestly couldn't care less or whose right or wrong or if there is anyone to point a finger at this point, but holy shit I can't believe how you guys are arguing about the same shit 20 pages later.

I really feel sorry for the staff/dev team at this point, mind you they shouldn't have characters in any of these guilds to begin with (personal opinion and preference from someone whose been involved in many emu server projects over the last 9-10 years from UO - > EQ : shit never works out if staff participate on the server with a player account and its publicly known that they are a GM/staff, i've had staff personally bend rules for me as a player before, don't say it hasn't been done here, i've had servers with a motto of NO GM INTERVENTION etc blah blah but when the server finally got shut down and logs were leaked, it was easy to read the lies once things came to a end.

Now mind you this isn't about GMs/Staff having accounts, it certainly doesn't help the entire IB vs Trans drama wagon, but I am at a loss for words at this point, can you guys not like play nice? What happened to that thread where the two guilds were actually participating together and clearing a plane and being respectful of each other

What the fuck?

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:24 PM
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opposing sides of mmorpgs throw shit at each other all day -- that shouldn't really surprise anyone, and the GMs need not expend the emotional energy trying to control it. It's what leads to GM burnout, and again, my recommendation is that the GMs wash their hands of getting involved in disputes like this -- it will free up their time for doing development or helping people in need or anything else, and it'll also allow them to be forced to deal with much less drama on a daily basis.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:29 PM
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opposing sides of mmorpgs throw shit at each other all day -- that shouldn't really surprise anyone, and the GMs need not expend the emotional energy trying to control it. It's what leads to GM burnout, and again, my recommendation is that the GMs wash their hands of getting involved in disputes like this -- it will free up their time for doing development or helping people in need or anything else, and it'll also allow them to be forced to deal with much less drama on a daily basis.
Quoted for fucken truth
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:34 PM
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It's just rants and flames =P In all honesty I respect plenty of members from IB (including Hasbinbad 50% of the time, Zexa 90% of the time and Tiki 10% of the time), I just get sick of the pointless rage posts and the elitist attitude in regards to everything (we don't need to position TT's cause we always resist it!, Trans is zerg! Ban Trans! Vox didn't AoE!), so I throw some shit back at them from time to time. We had a near forum silence policy for a long time, and it just left (some members of) IB free to slander and belittle others while prancing around on their high horse.

No one will ever be right here, no revolutionary points will be made, it's the forum trash can. 90% of the content here is heavily biased at best.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:36 PM
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I was just having fun, sorry :P
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:10 PM
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Sucks huh =/ It goes both ways.
No, lol, it doesn't.
You guys do all that shit, and say that we do it. That we say that you do it is just the truth. That you say that we do it but don't is lying. There _is_ a difference between us.
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