Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO guild chat is not rife with bitching about FE/IB/BDA/Whoever. TMO isn't protesting other guilds cheatin/training etc by not rezzing/buffing/porting you. If this is your guild's or your personal opinion, you might need to examine what YOU can do to help.

Hate is a choice.

Look, I get this, but at the same time Eccezan should stop starting all of those 'your tears are delicious' threads.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, I get this, but at the same time Eccezan should stop starting all of those 'your tears are delicious' threads.

He should.

People should also show a little more respect for them too.

Reading ooc/shout before, during and after a raid mob spawns is the best indicator of why this stuff ends up on the forums.

The Draco "2x BCG" shit is a prime example.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, I get this, but at the same time Eccezan should stop starting all of those 'your tears are delicious' threads.

People should stop using racist/sexist and anti LBGTQ speech against others too.
Also, Eccezan's threads are so terrible if anyone reads them it is because they are actively seeking to be trolled, or to troll.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have the slightest clue why anything happened here or happens here.

You don't understand that some things are up to the players and not the GMs.

I am hardly part of the problem. The FTE system was designed because of a problem.

I presume you'd rather Sirken had to be inches from his screen staring at the logs everytime a mob spawns? Brilliant!

I have a much better clue than you'd ever realize. You know nothing about basic raid enforcement considering you have this ridiculous belief that a GM will even have to watch a raid happen in a non-FTE environment. I've posted several times about this topic before and have posted numerous solutions, most of which actually happened on live, none of which have been debunked.

I'm sorry if your obsession with sticking to the status quo blinds you to considering alternatives, but you shouldn't try to drag everyone else down there with you.

Radditzu was right about you being a TMO cheerleader btw. It goes well beyond simple devils advocate. It looks as if you might be invested in such a stance actually.

Call tinfoil hat as you will, I'm only observing how you present yourself here.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People should stop using racist/sexist and anti LBGTQ speech against others too.
Also, Eccezan's threads are so terrible if anyone reads them it is because they are actively seeking to be trolled, or to troll.

Stop being a faggot and maybe people won't call you one.

Faggot.

[radditsu]

Fte shouts are a great way to clarify contested mobs. They were implemented because of bullshit. But as a raid function they are great. Prevent "accidents" with "friendly" competition

[Kagatob]

You know except that whole FTE sniping bullshit that happens.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Radditzu was right about you being a TMO cheerleader btw.

The FTE shout settles disputes of who got FTE. That's why I like it, no other reason. It saves the staff time.

In fact, FE/IB winning a few recent Traks and VS where FTE shout helped make it clear it was theirs. It sorted out a ton of the usual conspiracy, bullshit and finger pointer. This makes me a TMO cheerleader. Got it.

I guess everything in my objective and personal opinion of things raises the "doesn't slander the top guild enough" flag for you.

You put people in one of 2 camps. The people who blindly slander the top guild or everyone else, where everyone else is a "top guild" cheerleader. Got it. Excuse me for being the narrow minded one.

I was cautioned against trying to have an intelligent discussion with you. I'm still not convinced your an idiot, just very narrow in objective which is hating on the most dedicated players on the server. Is that obsession healthy? Um no. Does responding to a batphone at nearly any of the day mean you have more time during the day to do it? Yes. Does it make you more dedicated? Well, you're dedicating more time..

People being more dedicated means more for them and less for you. And here's a news flash. TMO does take on new applicants and members. New members who need best in slot gear and that puts the current "easy raid mobs" that everyone else is capable of doing in their cross hairs.

Please flesh out a system that works for everyone and get it stickied. I'd love to objectively critique it. The current system is flawed, your system will be flawed, accept it.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a non-FTE environment.

Define this btw.

Oh and you still didn't answer my question.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know except that whole FTE sniping bullshit that happens.

Hence the friendly raiding I was saying. Fte rules need to be agreed upon in this senario.

A) always respect the fte shout

B) loss of mobs if fte is obtained with less than a group in zone (numbers negotiated obv) aka you need to have a force.

C) a mob needs to reset to full for next engage.

D) peeling a mob after fte means you lose the mob and must leave or lose a future mob. (Under a raid agreement of course. )


Agree upon gentlemenly rules and you could use the tools we have for great effect.