"Porting for donations"...a little selfish?

[dethbringre]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I realize it's common courtesy to tip someone for buffs, revives, and ports. I always tip when I ask for any of these services (what I can afford, anyway), but the point is that it's technically a free service from most people and clients don't HAVE to tip if they don't want to. It's extremely petty and tacky, but they don't have to.

But I've run into a few people now that say things like "Porting for donations, at least 25pp" or "Will buff for tips." which gives the impression that they won't port you or buff you unless you give them a donation, turning a complimentary service into a paid one. I've even seen a few cases where newbies have been turned down for buffs or ports after asking politely for one, and I get the feeling it was because the people they were asking knew that they were broke and likely wouldn't have money for a donation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tipping someone who spends their time and mana to help you out, I always tip when I can, but when did donations turn into a MANDATORY thing? When did people start acting like "no donation? no port."?

Try finding a port on Red without at least 50pp. I can understand your concern on Blue that its a little tacky to request pp. Being as the only downside for the porter/buffer is a few mins of medding to regain lost mana. On Red its somewhat of a risk doing ports as you don't know who may be hanging out at the rings your porting into. Its a huge risk porting into DL blind thats for sure lol.

[Dirtnap]

Don't feel like reading all 21 pages of this thread buuuuut.

A donation is not mandatory, it is given freely.

What people should be saying is "Selling ports for X amount of pp."


If you are asking for donations, you can't be picky about how much you receive.

[a_gnoll_pup]

Having the freedom to do what you want is something that made EQ great.

[Alorae]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are asking for donations, you can't be picky about how much you receive.

Pretty sure they can. There's no law chiseled into stone that says you are required to click that port spell if the number in the trade window is not to your satisfaction.

[Seilan]

I've been fortunate enough to have an overall great experience with ports and buffs so far. In fact, just the other night, my lowbie friend and I were looking for a port from EC to Tox. I noticed someone advertising that they were porting, so I asked what the going rate was for a port to Tox and that my friend and I didn't have much money to spend. He replied with, "How does free sound?" I told him we didn't mind tipping at least what we could and he then told me that he wouldn't port us unless HE tipped us! In all the years I spent playing this game on live, I don't think I've ever had that happen, haha. My friend and I not only got a free port, but also 50pp (and he even gave my friend a piece of gear for his enchanter.) I'm not going to give a name for obvious reasons, but lets just say I have a new found respect for gnome wizards, heh.

Anyway, that little anecdote doesn't negate the douchebaggery that might happen at times of course, but I figured I'd throw a positive experience in there. In the month that I've been playing here, I've met some very generous people, and I've lost count of the times I've received buffs without even asking so I'd like to think the shitty experiences are less prevalent than the opposite.

[susvain0362]

OP started his trollings on page 17.

Truth is it was never about semantics, OP did not know what means till this thread. He used it as an out as opposed to looking like a sandy clam.

But yeah you totally trolled us!!!!

[Kohedron]

Only read for first 10 pages or so.

My opinion may likely change on this since I've only bee in the porting world for 4 levels, but it's not even the people who donate little/nothing who bother me. This is also someone who isn't /anon and hasn't ever asked for a donation in any way.

It's the people who treat me like I'm some kind of servant boy who do bother me. Please let me know before I port us off somewhere that we need to wait for a rezzer to pick up or wait for something else to happen.

If I say I'm busy, that doesn't mean it turns into a game where you need to convince me how quick it will be and how much you'll donate.

Also, (most of the time) I won't do pick ups that involve me running. Please keep that in mind if you are sending me a tell from 1+ zones away.

But besides this, the vast majority of people have been totally cool.

[fadetree]

Porters suck anyway. They are lucky we even give them ANYTHING, much less a decent 'donation'. Really, we are doing them a favor since its the only way they will ever get a group at all, even though its brief. Thoughts? Too far? U mad? Please explain.

[Swish]

Someone gave me 6pp for a 96% rez once (in their 40s). Said he'd donate when I was in EC. Wasn't expecting anything huge and was bored watching auction spam.

I hammered to OT and ran to Kaesora, took a while. Corpse wasn't at the zoneline and the guy was still at his bind point (scumbag Steve). Does a cleric have the right to feel bitter about it? This could be another thread of course.

Druids get more for their time than most rezzing clerics, but they are popular as first characters because of the inflation here...some want pixels now, and dont want to have to level to 60 before they have enough plat to twink the toon they really want to play.

[Lagaidh]

I've only read the first post so far, but I must say, it is a wonderfully classic post.

Taxis have been operating since 1999 and this question has always gone with it.