Adding the Planes of Power in to the original trilogy

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pfft! What this game needs is more erudite forehead reflection!
I got a fever! And the only cure is more erudite forehead reflection.

Anyway....all of this is your opinion! I know a lot of people that share it, and I know a lot of people that disagree with it. Back when I played SoD, the ability to have the newer character models was there but a lot of people (like me) chose not to play with them on because we liked the older models better. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My largest problem with the models was that they were required to use horses. My pally got his AA mount and that's when I *had* to change from my awesome classic model to that PoS Luclin High Elf. I enjoyed my horse, but the rest of it made me sad.

To be fair, I liked a *few* of the models, mostly the barbarians. They did do well with those male/female models. But why did they have to butcher Male HIEs??

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Just no.

I don't want all the small races to look more like each other than they already do.
I don't want all the elves to have this wierd stance where they put all their weight on their back leg all the time.

I want my male high elf paladins and clerics to keep their awesome chainmail skirt around their plate greaves.

I want my high elf paladins and clerics to keep their roman style helmets instead of that tomahawk BS.

I don't want my elves running around like bowlegged retards.

I don't need more reflection off of erudite foreheads.

I don't want two-handers to start coming down from over the head, keep the swing over the shoulder.

I want 2H-piercing weapons to still be used by TWO hands.

I don't want wood elf models to go from being slender to having these puffed out chests everytime they put on a plate BP.

I'm sure there's more, but that's what I can think of for now.

you do realize that models are client side controlled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
you, personaly, never have to switch. But at least 40% of players will

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you do realize that models are client side controlled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
you, personaly, never have to switch. But at least 40% of players will

I'd imagine that will be much higher then 40%. prob 70%+

[Shadey]

With the installment of Luclin you have two things. A new race and a new class. So like Kunark you will have a bunch of new chars being created as new mains or alts. With that big push of lower lvl chars you will then see lots of new lower level play. End of story.

If you want to make this into what eq1 ended up being which is all raiding and no lower to mid lvl play then implement PoP first.

What is seams to me is those that want to hold everyone else back because they don't want people in the newer low-mid lvl zones of Luclin. Well seams selfish to me. What I find funny about that is during luclin and beyond we still went to older expac zones for exp and some gear as well. And once the newness of Luclin wore off you found many groups going on in velious, kunark and orig eq zones.

And as I've said before its one of the best expacs they designed. It has something for everyone casual player and raider alike. Of all levels.

Now what I did see with PoP which is counter what everyone seams to want is that with it came the push to be 65 or you were not getting groups because that is where everyone was at. Either in the high end zones or raiding. So that does not do the general population good either.

And yes this is my opinion of course and that of MANY people I know that played live with me.

[Shadey]

Now to address something that will be a huge problem with skipping Luclin.

NO player geared with the best that Velious has to offer will be able to survive a PoP raid encounter in a normal raid setting. No guild will be able to do this without throwing massive amounts of people at the mobs (i'd say 150+ in raid).

The only way to accomplish this will be to dumb down the encounters to a point where its not PoP anymore.

[Kika Maslyaka]

well, with fully NTOV and ST geared raid, specially some of that amazing gear dropping off Boss of NTOV - Vulak`Aerr - you CAN do PoP tiers 1-3 - my guild did them on live

but you will NEVER make it past RZ without Ssra/VT gear

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, with fully NTOV and ST geared raid, specially some of that amazing gear dropping off Boss of NTOV - Vulak`Aerr - you CAN do PoP tiers 1-3 - my guild did them on live

but you will NEVER make it past RZ without Ssra/VT gear

Aye. I was thinking past the beginning easy mobs. should have specified. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still the point is skipping some content is fine sure. Skipping an entire expac will not work unless you dumb things down.

I knew of a few guilds that skipped VT entirely and just farmed SSRA and zone bosses and then moved to PoP. Now i'm not saying leave VT out as they did have a hard time of it a bit till they got more of the new PoP gear farmed from the lower tiers. VT is a great zone.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aye. I was thinking past the beginning easy mobs. should have specified. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still the point is skipping some content is fine sure. Skipping an entire expac will not work unless you dumb things down.

I knew of a few guilds that skipped VT entirely and just farmed SSRA and zone bosses and then moved to PoP. Now i'm not saying leave VT out as they did have a hard time of it a bit till they got more of the new PoP gear farmed from the lower tiers. VT is a great zone.

You can skip from Velious to PoP. If guilds get decked out in max Velious gear prior to PoP, they will stomp on the first 2 tiers. Then they will settle into Tier3 for a while gearing up on ornate patterns before making the push into T4 (Elemental planes). A gear block is almost a good thing, hell, take a look at the velious armor tiers. Most guilds will generally start out on the inferior dwarf armor before moving to dragon and finally to giant (I think that's the right order). Now the top guilds might have the gear to be able to skip the dwarf tier, but they will have to decide between the giant and dragon armors. This will be a good thing as not everyone will be fighting for the same raid content (which isn't instanced). This gear discrepancy will filter guilds to different bosses.

[semadurgun27]

Nice share boss...

[guineapig]

My thread has been pooped on.