Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And like COCKBLOCKS never happened on Live. People have very short memories. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know some guilds had ogre walls in the SSRA temple to prevent anyone from attacking mobs. Didn't make them any less banned when found out about it.

[Uggme]

Jesus, Webrunner. Do you ever post anything positive? You're seriously the grumpiest old man I've seen on these forums.

Midlife crisis got ya down? Based on your post count and join date do you even realize you've made an average of 3 posts per day, all of which are negative and whiny drivel? I rounded up to accomodate for posts in RnF.

Someone needs an attitude adjustment. But then again, it's pretty hard to teach and old dog new tricks. Maybe you just need to step away from the computer and come back when you've made some improvements to your attitude.

What people on this thread are proposing is to bring some structure back to VP for everyone. We all know cockblocking can't be stopped entirely. However, by implementing a set of fair and 'normal' rules for VP you can begin to reign in the nonsense that already takes place in there.

[Gnomersy]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And like COCKBLOCKS never happened on Live. People have very short memories. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone reference live when it benefits their argument?? GMs have stated a hundred billion times this emu has its own set of rules loosely based on live rules.
For the sake of argument no, no one cock blocked on emarr we had a schedule between the top 3 guilds and we stuck to it, even threw some underling guilds a bone occasionally when we were bored/uninterested.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by Gnomersy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone reference live when it benefits their argument?? GMs have stated a hundred billion times this emu has its own set of rules loosely based on live rules.
For the sake of argument no, no one cock blocked on emarr we had a schedule between the top 3 guilds and we stuck to it, even threw some underling guilds a bone occasionally when we were bored/uninterested.

I definitely remembered this on Emarr.. As a result of not being douche bags in end game raiding they were mostly respected.

[FenninEQaddict]

This thread... And the 50 others in past month all follow a common line. They start out saying they dont want drama and arent targetting anyone specifically then they immediately attack either the GMs because they arent changing things to the way the poster wants or TMO/FE/IB. Dont say you dont want drama knowing that the thread you are starting follows similar lines of so many before.

The GMs are doing what they are doing for themselves and their friends. The fact that you have fun is secondary in the end. Yes they want more players but it isnt specifically for you. It isnt like your paying a subscription to play. Dont bash them in threads or attack them for not fixing what you want fixed immediately and then expect them to make changes or care about your opinions.

Im sure they would appreciate another impartial fair GM to help with some of the work load. Now in the mystical land of fairytale there are such people but here in P99 land thats probably pretty hard to find.

The guilds like TMO are on top not through favoritism but through hard work. IB was on top and seems to be coming back as they are getting alot of the mobs they are competing with TMO for. Dont say its an impossible fight to beat TMO. Step up grow a pair and start fighting them for what you want. Oh and people at the top are always hated so will you next start attacking the guild that unseats TMO or will you rejoice and suddenly go silent?

VP from what I can tell takes no effort to actually train mobs on people TMO from what I know TMO is better at training themselves than FE ever was at training them and thats unintentional. So there is no way you could safely say that trains wouldnt happen there. This would just be another nightmare for GMs to deal with. Though it would be fun to watch the twitch tv stream of it if Sirken would run it along with the petitions that would come along.

Tasslehof arent you tagged TMO now why the hate for them I swear I saw you tagged and a bunch of corpses in KC the other night. I hear Merkk is apping TMO so it seems there are some who have realized that there is a third option over forcing change or creating a stronger raid force or raid co op. If you cant beat them or force them to change then join them.

[Nirgon]

You either enjoy racing to raid mobs or competing from them or you don't like the EQ raid scene.

The problem here is the length of Kunark and how many players are lvl 60 with all content completed aside from raid gearing numerous alts.

At least you can buy raid loot here, and its easy to find if you have the plat.

I mean, shit, you can sell 2 fungis and buy 3 cleric epics or some shit here.

[fastboy21]

Its not like this is a new game...

This server isn't about improving EQ, those were valid discussions 13 years ago.

If you want some kind of server token system I suggest you try another server (I believe this is exactly what Toop does on his server, btw).

[Gnomersy]

^behavioral modification 101

[Gnomersy]

The only flaw to your cornering the market analogy is in every market there rules both written and unwritten that will get you blackballed/jail time if broken. The difference between real world markets and this "market" is you can lobby(buy politicians) to change the rules to be more fair or less however you see fit. Here only QQing and requests to Rogean (god in this case) can change the rules, or so I assume. I'm just a naive gnome though so maybe there are other channels to bring about change.

Hooray for logic and sound arguments /applaud for you nietche!

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Gnomersy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only flaw to your cornering the market analogy is in every market there rules both written and unwritten that will get you blackballed/jail time if broken. The difference between real world markets and this "market" is you can lobby(buy politicians) to change the rules to be more fair or less however you see fit. Here only QQing and requests to Rogean (god in this case) can change the rules, or so I assume. I'm just a naive gnome though so maybe there are other channels to bring about change.

Hooray for logic and sound arguments /applaud for you nietche!

How is my market analogy flawed when you stated that "all markets" have inherent rules which, if broken, result in some repercussion? Is that not the case in p99 blue as well?

Did I need to explicitly state the disclaimer: Oh, by the way, like all other markets in the real world, the p99 market also has rules which, if broken, will result in some sort of repercussion?

Really?

P.S. You can lobby here too.