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Old 07-16-2023, 08:47 PM
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Most 18 year olds barely know who they are or what they believe at that age.
Conversely, I think it is a bad idea to work one’s politics into their identity and sense of self-esteem. Find something else not so corruptible to replace religion with, IMO

If I had to list things about myself going down from importance, politics would be wayyy the F down that list
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Old 07-16-2023, 08:58 PM
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He won't even make the ballot in New Hampshire.
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Old 07-16-2023, 08:58 PM
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Conversely, I think it is a bad idea to work one’s politics into their identity and sense of self-esteem. Find something else not so corruptible to replace religion with, IMO

If I had to list things about myself going down from importance, politics would be wayyy the F down that list
Well maybe politics isn't the right word, but politics is eventually inseparable from how people think and live. I don't think it lives in some fundamentally separate category.

"Can men give birth?" might be a good question to ask aspiring professors, with no preference to their answer. Hire one of each. But it's a pretty important question to ask right now, and it doesn't have much to do with tax rates or deficit spending.
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:05 PM
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I'm highly skeptical of going to college at all outside of really specialized, useful skills. Aka trade school. Most 18 year olds barely know who they are or what they believe at that age.
This is why I have sympathy towards the student loan forgiveness argument. Telling a 17 year old that he needs to hurry up and decide on a career and that they need to take out a huge ass loan to pay for the piece of paper to let them do it otherwise they will be flipping burgers for the rest of their life is downright coercive imo. Especially when they are being told this by a school councilor aka the people they have been told their whole life to trust for providing them with information and good advice.
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:14 PM
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Well maybe politics isn't the right word, but politics is eventually inseparable from how people think and live. I don't think it lives in some fundamentally separate category.

"Can men give birth?" might be a good question to ask aspiring professors, with no preference to their answer. Hire one of each. But it's a pretty important question to ask right now, and it doesn't have much to do with tax rates or deficit spending.
Maybe it’s rose-colored glasses, but politics used to be far less important to someone’s sense of self and personality 20 years ago than today. I prefer how it was

Politics should be about how to govern, not how to think and live. I dunno what should guide people there if they don’t have or hate religion like this new generation, but it shouldn’t be corruptible politics
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:29 PM
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Politics telling people how to live is great until the wrong political party is in charge

Technically, culture and community should be teaching people how to live, but community is a dead concept nowadays

Anyone who thinks it’s not, feel free to list the first names of all your neighbors and how many new friends you’ve made this month. Community has been dying for a while
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Old 07-16-2023, 09:30 PM
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Watching AI take over art and music while humans continue to work menial service jobs was definitely not the direction I expected progress to take us, but here we are.
So lets keep heading to the cinemas while AI is "writing" the scripts/screenplays and let "them" win!
We are actually in charge, we just dont enable that mode.
AI Captain, warp speed ahead Binary Mr. Spock.

Ha a thought, portions of our population dont like non- binary folk, so the the AI is merely providing what we asked for!#!
1st full ai movie.
Full Binary Jacket.
This is my bible, this is my gun.
This i'm rewriting, this one's for fun(damentalists).

I. Can't. Wait.
I wonder if tickets will be sold online. Prolly only at the door, stationed by a BI (bio intelligence).
Fuck Yeah.

AI = Alpha Intelligence.

BI = Beta Intelligence.
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Old 07-16-2023, 11:07 PM
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What we need to understand is that most teachers ae not cool or understanding of a students needs, fears, wants and dreams. They are mostly living day to day (like most people) to be worried about others. Sure, some manage a cursory feining of interest in the students or are genuinely intrigued, combined with a lingering memory of their own shattered dream.
Then, reality hits them as they remember that the rates are imminent and car rego is past due.
Dont get me wrong, some rock. I had one great teacher, music. Lived it, breathed it. Shared every type with his west sydney bogan (sorta like a redneck) students, ballet, operas, string quartets etc. Then his kids were born, bingo no time for sharing his his awesomeness.
As an adult i get that.
As a student im sure i showed resentment. Ungrateful son of a bitch i was.

Community certainly has changed, im late 50's and knew every family in my street as a kid. Now, as unsung said, i live in a street with only 3 houses, i work with 2 of them. I believe that is the sole reason i can name them. I dunno what the answer is, but ido know its not joining a religious or political cult tyat defines my whole being.
Rick climbing, playing guitar or sax (alto), scuba diving, 4 wheel driving or computer programing.
All those things stole my time at one point.
None do now, as a pair of wise girls once said, There's dust on my guitar you fuck, and its all your fault.
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Old 07-16-2023, 11:37 PM
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This is my bible, this is my gun.
This isn't binary.
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Old 07-16-2023, 11:38 PM
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This is why I have sympathy towards the student loan forgiveness argument. Telling a 17 year old that he needs to hurry up and decide on a career and that they need to take out a huge ass loan to pay for the piece of paper to let them do it otherwise they will be flipping burgers for the rest of their life is downright coercive imo. Especially when they are being told this by a school councilor aka the people they have been told their whole life to trust for providing them with information and good advice.
Should the people who do have to flip burgers for the rest of their life have to pay for that?
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