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09-05-2011, 08:25 PM
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Dark Ascension cheats: IB/TR taunt and flame Koota for months about hacking. DA is also labeled a guild of cheaters. This insult is used anytime DA has any success. This stigma has followed them for quite some time. They are truly the scapegoat of the server and are innocent of all crimes given that none of their officers were banned (TR had Perun banned).
Transatlantic Rampage cheats: Not only is their guild given no punishment when an officer admits using MQ2 once (lol). TR invites all banned hackers to rejoin with no punishment because they're friends (re: Gwence's illogical, barely legible post). TR has a pattern of behavior of exploiting (Stefen banned for hacking, Gwence / Swarws / Trystych numerous training suspensions). This guild should be disbanded and their officers banned permanently. In conclusion, TR should be suspended from raiding for two weeks and/or disbanded for having a leadership that has been complicit in hacking, training, and cheating for an extended period of time. | ||
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09-05-2011, 08:57 PM
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09-05-2011, 08:52 PM
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09-05-2011, 09:08 PM
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I know that some were not flagged Shiftin to say they all were not hit is possible but who knows? Were some simply not caught? Again just speculation but possible. Did they claim to only use it on ez server for those accounts? Heck more and more pure speculation from this point of view. What I was saying was these are ways you could use these programs to gain a clear advantage. You will forgive me if I do not give the benefit of the doubt because it wasn't long ago your people were screaming that it was pure skill and being better then everyone else in fair competition which is why they were getting so many mobs. While there certainly is something to that saying none of your bards were flagged might be true what about the monks? Knowledge is power and if people who are leading and directing have that knowledge I don't care that people in the raid aren't 'using'. That information gives distinct advantages.
I honestly believe because it has proven true throughout time that the surface was scratched. So when people say ' we only cheated this much or benefited it from it this much' I know there is more under the surface and it was much bigger then any of us are aware. But us claiming cheats were just wearing tin foil hats right? And here is another question. If everyone is cheating by using these programs but only some are using it to get rich which is the greater wrong? If some guy is using showeq playing 3 hours a week and only using macros to tradeskill he isn't really affecting anyone even though he is cheating. It changes when you have a raid guild who is 'dominating' and then this hits. It wasn't like TRmember_00 was found in gukbottom to be cheating so TR gets raid suspended. No, knowing what the history is and the punishment was your raid leader was one found to be using it and granted not the only one. And you expect to be dealt with more favorably? I am not saying you guys have 'no life' and all that kid insult crap. I am saying that your continued 'dominance' on this server in regards to raid mobs more and more seems a hollow achievement. Every time you have been 'threatened' you try any and everything to out the other guy down. And you honestly expect anyone to give the benefit of the doubt now? Every thing people say you give the 'tin foil' hat nonsense. Of course there are skilled and dedicated members in TR. Of course people bust their ass. Of course not everyone flagged was some scumbag hacking everything to make sure TR got raid mobs. But you can't stand there and defend anything now, the benefit of the doubt was lost if it ever existed. Your talk of an even playing field and fair competition is laughable. Most every guild had people flagged just to show how widespread the problem is and how apparently ineffectual the deterrent is. Is it just another coincidence the only 'raid leader' type to get hit was the 'top raid guild'? As raid leaders go in this game they carry much influence and directly impact how well their guild raids and as a result are the driving force behind how successful the guild ends up being as far as raids. The same can be said for the top guilds on servers. As they go the server goes. And the direction this server has taken can be directly linked to TR or IB or whatever else. Maybe it was Fish Bait or Transcendence at first I wasn't here and neither were you. But the fact of the matter is for a long time IB and TR have been in a leading position to help move this server in a positive direction and it has gone the opposite. And it is apparent that any means necessary legal or otherwise have been employed for how long? Are we to believe that these programs were never used to gain an edge? That everyone on the server is just jealous and none of them have any clue about what they are talking? That TR is the only guild with veterans from live or people who know this game or of what they speak when it comes to mechanics and plausibility? We are all just ignorant right? Of course there are people who are jealous and mistaken. But to say that everyone wears tin foil hats now, perhaps you are wearing them.
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