student loans are a hit!

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or I’ve heard the poverty always creates crime argument but after numerous periods of extreme poverty in history like the Great Depression, there weren’t giant crime wave spikes to my knowledge

So poverty is a contributing factor, never a complete excuse on its own that people want it to be. Crime creates poverty just as much by driving away businesses and turning areas into blight

I didn't say poverty. It has nothing to do with that.

I said 'Boys being raised by Single Mothers'

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't say poverty. It has nothing to do with that.

I said 'Boys being raised by Single Mothers'

Yea I know you hadn’t but a lot of people do

Crime is just from poverty. Not always, there have been periods of extreme poverty without crazy crime increases

And yea I agree that single motherhood seems to be another factor

[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or I’ve heard the poverty always creates crime argument but after numerous periods of extreme poverty in history like the Great Depression, there weren’t giant crime wave spikes to my knowledge

So poverty is a contributing factor, never a complete excuse on its own that people want it to be. Crime creates poverty just as much by driving away businesses and turning areas into blight

It has more to do with culture than poverty though poverty plays a role. One impoverished culture isn't going to have the same crime rate as another because the behaviors are different. For example during the 80's there was a huge economic boom but also one of the largest crime spikes in modern history

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has more to do with culture than poverty though poverty plays a role. One impoverished culture isn't going to have the same crime rate as another because the behaviors are different. For example during the 80's there was a huge economic boom but also one of the largest crime spikes in modern history

Culture effects behavior which effects crime rates but sentencing is all that matters

Lol

[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about how the weather condition differences in different areas might affect crime rates? Is it easy to mug people when it’s 10 below zero out?

This is actually a great illustration of statistical power. Data over long periods of time clearly show seasonality of crime, with it increasing during the summer (we're not 100% sure why but there are theories). However they can isolate this effect statistically and remove it from data. They do the same thing for numerous other variables.

You're also arguing that one of the cornerstones of modern business is invalid, like every corporation that does this with data is retarded and they just aren't in on it like you are lol. Somebody go to the business analysts convention and tell them

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is actually a great illustration of statistical power. Data over long periods of time clearly show seasonality of crime, with it increasing during the summer (we're not 100% sure why but there are theories). However they can isolate this effect statistically and remove it from data. They do the same thing for numerous other variables.

You're also arguing that one of the cornerstones of modern business is invalid, like every corporation that does this with data is retarded and they just aren't in on it like you are lol. Somebody go to the business analysts convention and tell them

I just don’t trust studies, especially ones on something as complex as human behavior across multiple populations in the us at once

[Lune]

Somebody go tell every major global retail corporation we don't actually know how to isolate market forces and determine optimal pricing points

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somebody go tell every major global retail corporation we don't actually know how to isolate market forces and determine optimal pricing points

Possibly, depends on the study

[Nibblewitz]

p-values lol

What are the significance levels of these studies?

[Origen]

Even if I accept the postulation that the root cause of all crime is the lack of fathers in a given household, what is the proposed solution to this problem?