Highspeed rail is B$it

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assuming that the consumer driven society of the west is superior to the less developed cultures of the world is literally colonialism lol

[loramin]

Socialism is an economic system, not a governmental one.

America is a capitalist (economic system) democracy (government system), whereas communist Russia was a socialist (economic) dictatorship (government).

The point is, historically humans have only really succeeded with two ways of governing ourselves: democracy or dictatorship (with some sub-options like "dictatorship by rich people", ie. oligarchy).

[Jibartik]

Jesus christ, this is a modern liberal folks.

Last thing I ever thought I'd have to do is teach a modern leftist about the benifits of democratic socialism.

You warhawk neodem corperatists didnt just throw sanders under the bus, you guys drove over him repededtly.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus christ, this is a modern liberal folks.

Last thing I ever thought I'd have to do is teach a modern leftist about the benifits of democratic socialism.

You warhawk neodem corperatists didnt just throw sanders under the bus, you guys drove over him repededtly.

I'm all for democratic socialism ... I'm just saying it requires democracy as a means of achieving it: you have to elect someone like Bernie Sanders (and then a lot more "squad members" also, to actually pass the socialist legislation).

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for democratic socialism ... I'm just saying it requires democracy as a means of achieving it: you have to elect someone like Bernie Sanders (and then a lot more "squad members" also, to actually pass the socialist legislation).

Look into the difference between demsoc and socdem before you go seizing anything, tovarisch.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialism and Nationalism.

What have you been on mars with your fingers in your ears?

Thats what the left was supposed to be doing not global corperate proxy wars.

This guy ranting about uppity leftists and saying the only way to save the white race is embracing National Socialism (aka Nazism).

That you, Nirgon?

[Jibartik]

Nobody has said anything against democracies.

You and the rest of the west being a consumer whore, who loves war and the destruction of our planet is what I am talking about.

That has nothing to do with voting, democracy, or whatever the hell else you're talking about.

This fascist global consumer driven western impearliasm, is at fault for every problem on the planet today, and always will be.

Its the cause of every war. It's the cause of all the climate catasrophies, it's the cause of the pandemic, it's the cause of literally every bad thing in this world. Every evil goverment has had one thing in common - WE supported that coup for OUR consumer driven corperate interests.

China would collapse if we stopped buying products from them. Instead we would rather buy products from them and go to global war with them at the same time? That's insanity. The climate saving left is trying to convince me proxy wars and mass consumerism shipping goods all over the planet is not insanity? Give me a break.

All that and for what? Cheep Oscar Myer Balgonie for a vast minority of the planet. That's it.

[Jibartik]

That quote of me saying democracy, is me asking you, why are you talking abotu democracy!?~!?!

I never said anything about it, except to ask you why you keep saying I did.

The second time, i was roasting you, because you kept bringing up democracy and saying it was what our great system was.

God damn man.

Read the quotes READ them.

Me asking you, "Why are you talking about democracy That has nothing to do with what I am saying!" is not me "talking about democracy"

I am specifically talking about globalist consumerism, and western capitalisms. Nothing related to democracy whatsoever. Stop trying to change the subject.

You said war keeps us secure. I said that's insane. Then suddenly you're like talking about democracy.

[loramin]

At best you're arguing that you make non-sequitur responses to my posts.

Look when Bob talks about ... whatever, and then Fred responds to Bob, the assumption is Fred is responding to whatever Bob said. That's just how normal conversation works.

[Jibartik]

Just apologize for misunderstanding someone for once in your life dude.

Dont double down and pretend like you didn't say all this shit about security, military, and that I'm a fool for not appreciating those things.

Then when i tell you I dont appreciate those things because they are killing the planet and the people that live on it, you pivot to trying to argue with me about something else that I already BELIEVE in.