Enchanter OP impact poll

[azxten]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azxten continues to make outlandish, garbage claims without providing any actual reputable, empirical evidence.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=343453

Originally Posted by Dolalin View Post
So Torven sent me the logic they use on TAKP which I've given to the P99 devs. They took their code from a client decompile so it's as close as I imagine you could get to accuracy.

In a thread started by someone else the decompile evidence is obtained, posted, and given to devs.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm mostly repeating the work of others but people love to attack me for not shutting up and letting valid bug reports that impact core game mechanics fade into oblivion.

[TripSin]

Stop moving the goalpost. Let's see the videos of you charming through 5 mobs hitting you.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop moving the goalpost. Let's see the videos of you charming through 5 mobs hitting you.

Don't worry we'll get there but I have to wonder, who is moving the goalpost? My videos shouldn't be the evidence needed, the decompile is, which is why I just linked it again in case you hadn't seen it.

I'll make some funny videos though, sure, and you'll claim it's all doctored or cherrypicked or whatever. Right now I'm playing with one of my children though so you know priorities.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how everyone who played on live remembers what Enchanters were actually like ... but the Enchanter players here, who don't want to play a classically difficult class, demand a PhD dissertation of proof ...

I literally only asked that he provide what he literally himself said he would provide, which is videos of him charming through 5 mobs meleeing him. I did add the caveat though that they should be at least blue con mobs, because doing it against green con mobs that are missing you isn't impressive. I would love to see it. But, to my knowledge, Azxten has never been able in all these years to back up his ridiculous claims with real evidence. I'd love to see an exception, but I'm not optimistic he will deliver.

[magnetaress]

Chsnneling rates are pretty redic.

Ur just pro channeling to bully azxten cuz of posting style. Not facts.

[magnetaress]

A lot of players are better at supporting ench too. On live in pugs ench didn't rely on healers or other casters being good enough to help them charm.

Charming should be more dangerous solo.

[Dolalin]

I've submitted some Channeling skill changes to the P99 devs, taken from Torven / TAKP, which are more classic and will rebalance the low level caster game. Channeling at low levels is very OP here on P99.

Ideally we could try to reimplement a few of the classic charming 'bugs' too, but I recognize that might be problematic:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=359961

[Nirgon]

even the poll options reek of ass hurt

[Nirgon]

"It's clearly unfair wizards and druids can port all around the world within minutes. Way too OP for raid mobilization."

Keep it on the WoW boards.

[Danth]

Dunno about charm, but it sure seems like the Great Lull Nerf isn't present on P99 and never has been (folks have been bringing this one up since 2009). The artificially high resist rate given to the lull type spells was done host-side in the original game and hence wasn't reflected in clientside spelldata files. I don't want to see folks nerfed on P99 badly enough to scrounge the net for the relevant quotes--at this point in my life I prefer letting it be and let folks have their fun--but its another factor making Enchanters relatively stronger on P99 than in the original game. Also benefits some other classes as well (like my Paladin) and generally makes pulling slightly trivial here.

Danth