List Integrity

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The group? You mean me and one other person? Had I just decided to log off, he would still be in the spot of having the PH up for 3 hours? At no point during any PH killing did I not participate.

yeah but that's not what happened is it. instead of grouping with him you tried to bully him out to take his spot. you knew full well what you were trying to achieve.

[Veeshan31]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been a continuing theme I keep responding to. We fundamentally disagree on what the absence of charity is. You are saying if you don't so something nice for someone you are an Ahole. I believe charity is should be met with gratitude and lack of charity shouldn't be met with hostility.

Another example: someone comes up to me and asks me for a SoW. You think I am an Ahole if I don't SoW him. I disagree. I believe we have an entitlement problem in this community.

Again why is it so hard to understand. Its not the fact that you didnt help him. Its the fact that you stayed there and tried to bully your way to the #1 list spot. If you did not want to help then you should of left. If you were going to stay, then yes you should help. Its common sense. Everyone gets a drop quicker. That's how /list works. The only motivation to stay there and not help the #1 person would be your hoping to take his #1 spot. What other reason did you have for staying and not helping?

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Veeshan31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its the fact that you stayed there and tried to bully your way to the #1 list spot.

Never bullied him. I didn't even talk to him.

Originally Posted by Veeshan31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you were going to stay, then yes you should help.

Why? This is the entitlement I keep referring to. Why do I have an obligation to kill a mob for someone?

[Veeshan31]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never bullied him. I didn't even talk to him.



Why? This is the entitlement I keep referring to. Why do I have an obligation to kill a mob for someone?

Why else would you stay at the camp? If you did not want to help, then leave. Go do something else.

If you want a manastone and your #2 in line, then you help #1 in line. Thats how it works. Your not obligated to help but you're only hurting yourself and the #1 by not helping. Do i really need to explain this to you?

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never bullied him. I didn't even talk to him.



Why? This is the entitlement I keep referring to. Why do I have an obligation to kill a mob for someone?

It's called playing nice. I hear it may even be a policy. Something something golden rule too.

I helped an ench #2 on list kill the EE after I got my manastone because he needed a bit of time to have some others come help him. Why? Because my obligation is to play nice and let's show some humanity. I want a good reputation, these are people playing not npcs.

I'm not obligated to stop and help someone if their car breaks down in the middle of no where but what kind of person am I if I just drove on by without stopping to at least offer assistance?

[nyclin]

normal person perspective: there's someone else here, and they're #1 on the list. due to the way /list works, I'm gonna have to help if I want a chance at this item, or I can just go do something else.

crazy person perspective: there's another person here, I'm going to stomp my feet and demand that they remove themselves from the list because obviously I should be #1, because I deserve the item more than the person that was waiting at the camp for longer than me. I'm also going to petition them and post about it on the forums. when people try to point out that I'm kind of being a dick, I'm going to double down and call the person at #1 entitled.

[lituviel]

Originally Posted by Veeshan31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grakken you are so far gone and instead of just admitting you were wrong and being a dick, your continuing to argue you were right. It just makes you look worse. Almost as bad as Masterize.

I was about to answer then I realized that you just have no clue what you're reading and obviously calling people is your way to go.
I feel sorry for you.

Oh and lol for : Veeshan31

Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 37

Not sure if you're new and lost-fan-of-dramas or old with a spoiled forum account that forced you to get rid of your past.

Both cases sucks really.

[bubur]

It's funny because when I got to 35 and went to the camp, I felt really lucky to start at slot 2.

I /listed, said "yo" and number 1 and I grouped up to pummel eyes together. It was pretty cool and normal. When he got his, he even stayed a few cycles until another guy got there to make sure I wouldn't have issues. Then I helped the next guy find the camp in between ph's. Very pleasant in general

Ppl here are describing some really unfortunate behavior. This is not the way homies

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny because when I got to 35 and went to the camp, I felt really lucky to start at slot 2.

I /listed, said "yo" and number 1 and I grouped up to pummel eyes together. It was pretty cool and normal. When he got his, he even stayed a few cycles until another guy got there to make sure I wouldn't have issues. Then I helped the next guy find the camp in between ph's. Very pleasant in general

Ppl here are describing some really unfortunate behavior. This is not the way homies

Is the list legitimately only 2 people long on some server right now?

[bubur]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the list legitimately only 2 people long on some server right now?

My experience was like that last Sunday night on teal. This whole issue/thread seems to be rooted in the camp being kinda empty

Nice problem to have tbh, sad it is being blown way out of hand. Hope the staff ignores it