Recruitment Advice for AM.

[diamondfist]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm. If we want to focus on responses to disputes, let's take a look at Riot's from earlier that night.

• We made you aware that you trained us at Eashen.
• You engaged and killed Eashen anyway.
• Diamondfist and Quean got wyvern aggro on your botched engage, FDing them over us and delaying our CR attempts.
• Riot engages Zlexak while we try and get corpses dragged from under Eashen.
• Two minutes later Riot acknowledges the Eashen train and concedes 2x Eashen.
• Riot spends the next 9 minutes killing Zlexak while we continue the CR at Eashen from your train.
• We request 2x Zlexak concessions. Riot's response:
  

So Riot refuses to drop a mob they're engaged on - even after admitting fault - and then tells us it'll be dealt with later because it's not a live issue.

Meanwhile, Riot petitions us despite a concession ~3 minutes after being made aware of a train by our member and a 30 minute window after the concession before we engaged anything else.

Something feels inconsistent here.

Love the misinformation here... really hope you guys did petition that so you can eat another raid suspension for as per usual Detoxx crying wolf without having all the information in front of him, and or trying to manipulate his view of the rules, or just outright trying to bully the other parties leadership into aligning with what Detoxx feels he deserves.


You guys cant ask for the world, and then feel you are above doing the same in return when you are caught.

#think

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the misinformation here... really hope you guys did petition that so you can eat another raid suspension for as per usual Detoxx crying wolf without having all the information in front of him, and or trying to manipulate his view of the rules, or just outright trying to bully the other parties leadership into aligning with what Detoxx feels he deserves.


You guys cant ask for the world, and then feel you are above doing the same in return when you are caught.

#think

Didnt they concede vulak right away.... whereas you killed eashen? Even AG waited to see the fraps before engaging eashen when they trained our engage despite being in a perfect position to go in and kill eashen without waiting for the fraps.

Also lets not act like youre an angel here lol. You cant be an asshole just because you feel detoxx deserves it.

[Hideousclaw]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...Detoxx crying wolf without having all the information in front of him...

A P99 Memoir

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the misinformation here...

What misinformation?

Fraps of your Eashen train was posted at 22:23: https://youtu.be/KP2GnGnLwu0?t=31.

Initially you dismiss it because you're too busy cothing up to Zlexak while we CR from your train:

Baylan <Riot>14/06/2019
There's a lot going on and the mob is already dead, so you'll forgive me if I don't pay much attention atm.

You then engage Zlexak while we CR from your train:

[Fri Jun 14 22:34:24 2019] Zlexak engages Quean!

Two minutes into your engage you admit fault for the Eashen train, while we are still CRing from it:

Arthion <Riot>14/06/2019
Riot concedes the next 2 Eashens. Sorry for the trouble.

Riot loudly proclaims it is the guild of fair play, and has said previously that Riot believes that if a guild is trained they should be given the chance to set up and have an attempt. In reality, Riot took advantage of the fact we were dead from their train and had 9 minutes to drop Zlexak but chose not to do so.

When this was hypocrisy was pointed out the response given was:

Planarity <Riot>14/06/2019
at this point it's not a live issue so we're going to take time to discuss it. <Riot> has co-leadership
we'll make it right, we won't respond to threats tho

We conceded Vulak within 3 minutes of fraps being posted to us and we waited a further 30 minutes before engaging another mob (which we didn't have to do) to "make it right".

The argument made against us and the justification for the petition: we took time to discuss the guild removal of a member after the cycle was over. It wasn't a "live issue" and we had asked for time to discuss it, given that half our officers were on vacation.

Please highlight the misinformation Diamondfist.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

feel you are above doing the same

I think you’re a hypocrite, and I think you’re going to eat those words within 6 months. It’s easy to see through the holier than thou act that you and Riot leadership puts on. You got a lot of mouths to feed now. See you on the battlefield (in a week, that is [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

Also, please don’t wipe to any raid encounters today. Not that it should be a problem with your 5 guild alliance, but you never know.

[planarity]

riptoes was docked 500 dkp before he was booted. Why bother docking DKP on someone if you plan to boot them anyway? Well because you didn't want to boot him, and had decided not to, but then were happy to throw him under the bus *after you got petitioned* and *after he had already been suspended or banned* in an attempt to try to avoid a raid suspension.

Also, I still don't have a strong opinion on loot deletion either way. It's the GM's call and they'll do whatever they want.

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by planarity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

riptoes was docked 500 dkp before he was booted. Why bother docking DKP on someone if you plan to boot them anyway?

We docked him 500 dkp immediately, but the vote on guild removal was postponed until Detoxx got back from vacation.

I'm sorry that our internal processes don't bend to your whims, but like I said earlier: it was after the cycle and it had no material impact on you.

Originally Posted by planarity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then were happy to throw him under the bus *after you got petitioned* and *after he had already been suspended or banned* in an attempt to try to avoid a raid suspension.

No, the vote that was postponed until Detoxx returned from vacation happened...when Detoxx got back from vacation. It was voted to kick.

Despite us conceding the mob for the train, waiting for a lockout to expire, and kicking the member, you still proceeded to petition.

You were out for blood because of the Zlandi/Eashen/Zlexak frustration, saw an opportunity, and took it. I don't hold it against you, just stop trying to make it out like it's a "greater good" thing.

[planarity]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were out for blood because of the Zlandi/Eashen/Zlexak frustration, saw an opportunity, and took it. I don't hold it against you, just stop trying to make it out like it's a "greater good" thing.

Friday wasn't a frustrating day for <Riot> by any stretch of the imagination, until you guys intentionally trained us, of course.

[branamil]

When I was an app aftermath made me send nudes to the officers and they've held them for blackmail. They said I had to be toxic in ooc and forums or they'd release them and I've been dreading that until now. I can't let the world see my Dewey pendulous nuts dangling so prominently and flagrantly in front of the camera. But I don't care anymore, it's time to come clean, consequences be damned.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I was an app aftermath made me send nudes to the officers and they've held them for blackmail. They said I had to be toxic in ooc and forums or they'd release them and I've been dreading that until now. I can't let the world see my Dewey pendulous nuts dangling so prominently and flagrantly in front of the camera. But I don't care anymore, it's time to come clean, consequences be damned.

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