How do I report a named kill steal?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In response to your question. Fishing rod Hadden is the PH for fishbone earring Hadden. As per the rules you quoted did you kill the previous Hadden? No. You could argue you were killing the mobs 'in the room' if you had been locking down Axe Broadsmith, which as far as I am aware you had not being doing.

As such the camp was not yours. Hadden was open season and you failed to FTE.

I don't believe that's how it works. Think about it: if it was, then no one could ever claim any mob unless they killed the PH first ... but they could never have claimed that PH without having killed it's PH first, and they could never have claimed ...

Clearly if you show up to a camp, and no one else is claiming that camp, you can claim that camp, whether or not you killed the PH, and whether or not the mob is up at the moment or not. The only requirement to claim a camp/spawn point as your own is that it not be taken already and that you are prepared to engage the mob when it spawns (eg. you can't claim a level 60 mob with your level 1).

[bricke75]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe that's how it works. Think about it: if it was, then no one could ever claim any mob unless they killed the PH first ... but they could never have claimed that PH without having killed it's PH first, and they could never have claimed ...

Clearly if you show up to a camp, and no one else is claiming that camp, you can claim that camp, whether or not you killed the PH, and whether or not the mob is up at the moment or not. The only requirement to claim a camp/spawn point as your own is that it not be taken already and that you are prepared to engage the mob when it spawns (eg. you can't claim a level 60 mob with your level 1).

Agreed. That's how the rules work, IMO (and most people).

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe that's how it works. Think about it: if it was, then no one could ever claim any mob unless they killed the PH first ... but they could never have claimed that PH without having killed it's PH first, and they could never have claimed ...

Clearly if you show up to a camp, and no one else is claiming that camp, you can claim that camp, whether or not you killed the PH, and whether or not the mob is up at the moment or not. The only requirement to claim a camp/spawn point as your own is that it not be taken already and that you are prepared to engage the mob when it spawns (eg. you can't claim a level 60 mob with your level 1).

Thats not how lucan works though. You could sit in lucan’s room with 200 level 60s but you would not have lucan rights unless you were keeping his room cleared. Similarly you could have a raid force at hadden but if you werent there since one of you killing the previous hadden or killing any surrounding mobs (the room) you would not have any claim to hadden

[aaezil]

If two people are sitting at hadden and neither have killed the previous hadden (or if someone did but logged out since then) then neither of them have claim to hadden unless they are killing nearby mobs or something. Just sitting semi afk at a spawn point doesnt give rights to anything as most people understand the current (terrible) rules. In the situation OP described hadden would be FTE rights.

[aaezil]

Honestly the issue here isnt even so much the players being dicks (guy said he would have handed over the earring if it dropped) the issue is more the rules here are just god awful

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly the issue here isnt even so much the players being dicks (guy said he would have handed over the earring if it dropped) the issue is more the rules here are just god awful

+1 again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Triiz]

Found the Lucan post from March 2018

Originally Posted by Menden

For Lucan, you must show you are actively killing Lucan's guards to claim the camp, that's pretty simple. Hell, he has a much shorter spawn time so there's plenty of lucans to go around. It's been this way for a long long time.

Maybe a lot of people knew that for a "long long time", but it sure wasn't common knowledge among anyone I knew that camped Lucan. Also never saw anyone clearing the room the few times I wasn't afk waiting on a timer prior to that post.

[Jimjam]

Longest person there is just a gentlemanly concession to which many players abide. It doesn't give rights to the camp.

No one clears Axe for 6 hours because it would be a dumb waste of time.

However, neither of these facts mean you're entitled to undisputed Haddens just because you've been sat there for 333 minutes.

Agree on the lawyer thing, but if people throw about accusations of kill stealing and rule breaking then we need to make reference to the rules.

If B had just said what D did was uncool I'd agree. But that's not the angle B chose to pursue.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe that's how it works. Think about it: if it was, then no one could ever claim any mob unless they killed the PH first ... but they could never have claimed that PH without having killed it's PH first, and they could never have claimed ...

Clearly if you show up to a camp, and no one else is claiming that camp, you can claim that camp, whether or not you killed the PH, and whether or not the mob is up at the moment or not. The only requirement to claim a camp/spawn point as your own is that it not be taken already and that you are prepared to engage the mob when it spawns (eg. you can't claim a level 60 mob with your level 1).

I don't see the problem. The mob is unclaimed until a ph is killed, the subsequent spawns are then claimed by the killer until they log off or win the item they are after. If they choose they can hand off the camp to the next person on their list (provided that person is there for the next spawn) otherwise the next spawn is FTE again.

[Zipity]

Using this logic I think a lot of People at STormfeather are about to be so mad when I FTE it bc they didn’t kill the previous PHer or gnomes under the tree!

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using this logic I think a lot of People at STormfeather are about to be so mad when I FTE it bc they didn’t kill the previous PHer or gnomes under the tree!

I'm pretty sure most people acquire storm feather camp through the list hand over system.