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01-28-2019, 02:17 AM
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https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/01/13/...of-the-border/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/201.../drug-cartels/ Build a wall and crime will....remain the same? | ||
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01-28-2019, 07:21 AM
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01-28-2019, 07:25 AM
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01-28-2019, 11:00 AM
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In industry, we have people called "subject matter experts" that we use to gather insight from before we make big decisions. I would consider an ex cartel member who has already been arrested, extradited, and pleaded guilty to drug trafficking as a pretty knowledgable resource. More-so than a burnout high school pill popper from Florida at least. He isn't an active cartel member anymore and is facing a minimum of 10 years to life sentencing. He has everything to gain from truthfully cooperating with authorities, and nothing to lose. Why are you so intent on wasting taxpayer money when it could be spent on much more effective border security? Do you really even care about this at all or is this issue so partisan that you've dug your heels in regardless? Or, as you put it, are you retarded? Still waiting on an explanation of how Mexico is paying for this, btw. https://southerncaliforniaaddictionc...icking-mexico/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8718836.html http://fortune.com/2018/01/19/donald-trump-border-wall/ https://www.foxnews.com/us/how-chapo...voc-on-us-soil | |||
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01-28-2019, 11:08 AM
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You actually trust Mexican cartels to tell you the truth more than logic and common sense. The cartel does not want to see the wall built. Can they get around it? Sure, eventually. But that's why you continue to evolve your security. The cartels aren't the only ones who try to cross the border. They're not the only issue. Again, just because hackers might eventually figure out a way to get into your computer, doesn't mean you should just give up and not secure your computer. Antivirus will keep out the majority, and you keep it updated. | |||
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01-28-2019, 11:26 PM
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https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi...resolution.pdf Every single drug referenced in this report states that the majority are coming through ports of entry. Are the DEA wrong too? But to your point about not being able to count what we can't see. If that's the case then how can you say that a wall will stop anything? I mean, if we don't know drug amounts coming across between POE's, how can we estimate the effectiveness of a wall? The cartels don't want the wall to be built? What makes you say that? I personally think they don't give a shit about it either way. I bet they're laughing their asses off at us. So, common sense says that it's easier to walk drugs across the border a few pounds at a time (see the DEA article) than it is to move tons in produce shipments and in hidden vehicle departments? Are you high? Shit man, they're literally building submersible vehicles that can move 60 tons at a time. That's 120000 pounds. How many people would it take to walk that across the desert? Can they get around it? Yes and they already are doing just that. We have a known trafficker facing life in prison who has said "this is literally how we traffic drugs", and you're response is "nuh uh bro". Common sense? Sheeeeyit. And the antivirus analogy again. Still weak. If you don't want a wall then you're obviously against border security right? <insert trump "wrong" meme here> Why not focus the antivirus efforts on where it is well documented that the problems are? Here's another fun point. Trump tweeted that the wall will be finished in 2 years. In what reality is that possible? We're talking about the US government here. Realistically I'd be surprised if they've even started construction in two years. Government contracts are a nightmare. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/expe...he-claims.html And before you say that we've already started construction on the wall; No, we haven't. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/11/67589...-we-build-more Here's where i think we can agree. Are their places on the southern border where a physical barrier will help prevent drug tracking? Yes, absolutely. But that's not what Trump is asking for. He wants "The Wall". 2000 miles, no wait 1000 miles. concrete, no wait, beautiful steel slats, no wait, a smart wall, no wait, I've always meant a concrete wall! Look, if he came out and said "hey guys, we've done some research and here are some particular spots that we believe a physical barrier would be effective. I've consulted with experts in both border security and construction and here is the priority in which I propose we start building or reinforcing our infrastructure." then perhaps we could have some positive discussion. But no, it's "BUILD A WALL AND CRIME WILL FALL!!". Do you see the difference? In what world is that how you sell a product or idea? It's like he's not even trying. It's like....maybe he's trying to distract us from all of all the Mueller fun? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Lol, can you imagine if he went on Shark Tank? You said Mexico was going to pay for the wall, and that's an obvious lie. So for that reason, I'm out. Sorry the facts still don't support your narrative. | |||
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01-28-2019, 12:24 PM
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01-28-2019, 09:56 AM
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01-28-2019, 11:10 AM
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