Raid Suspending best idea GM's had in a long time

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSG has shown interest in attempting Growth and as Detoxx can attest, our old agreement was always changing because no rules were put in place. No time limit, no rules about failing (we argued about what happens if you fail Tunare versus failing the clear), nothing. I was also told that CSG was going to sign the agreement, but I know they are busy this week. Does Aftermath plan to agree to anything, or are we just going to be left with a Ring War Rotation and a Statue/AoW agreement between Awakened and CSG?

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

Fifield falls short with the OP and recovers with this.

[Mortiis]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

+1

I still don't understand why it's such a hard concept.

+2

For the forty-eight.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

What if Anon/Kittens or Venerate/FoH wants to be dealt in (and why shouldn't they)? What then? Who's going to be the one to pull the rug out from under it and leave for Phinigel?

[Suwu]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

you've turned into a little bitch fifield, good god.

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Suwu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you've turned into a little bitch fifield, good god.

I saw the light, maybe one day you will too.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand the point being made, and I am telling you why it doesn't work. There need to be rules to have order. No rules? Do you not count the order of a rotation a rule?

As it stood, at least once a month Detoxx and I argued about the specifics of Tunare. With clear written rules, there is no need to argue. Point to the rule, either a guild is or isn't abiding by it. Done.

I totally get the idea behind you guys's order. I just think its crazy the layers of rules you have to make in order to come to agreements.

Should be easier then what you guys deal with

[The Prez]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy fuck you and your stupid rules.

Creating a simple rotation between guilds isnt hard, you dont need to create a 10page manual.

Hey CSG, Awakened, Aftermath. Were gonna rotate Tunare. Ok cool. Done....

Time limits, number of attempts. who gives a shit.

I would assume it's because if anything is left open for interpretation, it will be left open for abuse. Seems like a simple concept. Or is Detoxx logging on different forum accounts to Trollolol now too?

If the current raid scene isn't an indicator with people from every side crying for clearer rules, I don't know what is.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least we have Breaken stepping up to hash out the important details like a PoGrowth agreement/rotation ��

On a serious note Aftermath has stated several times that we would be willing to rotate several targets in velious to open up some content but Breaken refuses. He doesn't want to take the "fun" away from his people, cause staring at a wall for 16 hrs is so exhilarating.

It's time to make P99 great again, bring back the rotations even if it doesn't include the top targets like Vulak/Doze etc.

Just create a tier system for content - Vulak/Doze/KT/Dain/Statue>AoW being the first tier, bunch of other shit in T2 and the lower Velious content and old shit like VP/Trak etc in T3.

A/A compete for T1 mobs always.
A/A rotate T2 mobs so their members don't have to stare at a wall for 16 hours.
A/A/CSG rotate T3 mobs.

That keeps the fun in the game for the mobs that really matter when measuring PixelPeens, eliminates the need for WallStareQuest for fluff loot, and keeps CSG with some flowing pixels.