Raid Suspending best idea GM's had in a long time

[Phantasm]

Ikon, let it go dude. THey aren't enforcing a rotation here. THey do actively answer queries and petitions from the players and police the PnP as best they can.

Besides, your links only make it seem like people *wanted* a GM enforced rotation (like you want now). Crazy how history repeats itself, I wonder if somebody is going to be quoting you 15 years from now like "See *THEY* had GM enforced rotations too*

[Linksfather]

If you want Dragons , get your running shoes on like everyone else. Kill your fte target within a hour and run for the next one. Ohh... Like everyone else

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ikon, let it go dude. THey aren't enforcing a rotation here. THey do actively answer queries and petitions from the players and police the PnP as best they can.

Besides, your links only make it seem like people *wanted* a GM enforced rotation (like you want now). Crazy how history repeats itself, I wonder if somebody is going to be quoting you 15 years from now like "See *THEY* had GM enforced rotations too*

Who said I want a GM enforced rotation, I don't really care at all one way or the other, on a new server yeah it would be nice to actually have classic rules to go with classic gameplay - this server is unfortunately way past saving imo.

The statement from Sirken was - "The PnP was not enforced on all servers". My reply was to provide evidence that it actually was, evidence from Gordon Wrinn along with his Produce Letter stating it was, another statement from Gordon Wrinn dated a year later showing it was being enforced, a statement from a verified guide stating they enforced it, and threads from players of the period stating it was being enforce, and complaining that it was being enforced.

Then we had some pixel nerds come on and try to refute the evidence that I provided by pretending the word Spawn meant it didn't apply to dragons and raids - which I successfully was able to show to be incorrect - linking a post from a player who referred to it being enforced for plains and dragon runs.

Then because they were unable to 'win' that argument they shitted the goal posts over to something else, rotations, to which I provided evidence which refuted what they were trying unsuccessfully to show.

So at the end of this lovely exercise we have:

A number of posts from Gordon Wrinn, an associate producer of Everquest
A post from a guide
A post from 60+ everquest players.
And more

Vs

Someone that claims to have been a guide 17 years ago and knew the status of every petition on at least 4 or more servers from 2000 onwards.

And

A couple of pixel nerds opinions and memories from 17 years ago.

Wheres your money going?

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The statement from Sirken was - "The PnP was not enforced on all servers". My reply was to provide evidence that it actually was, evidence from Gordon Wrinn along with his Produce Letter stating it was, another statement from Gordon Wrinn dated a year later showing it was being enforced, a statement from a verified guide stating they enforced it, and threads from players of the period stating it was being enforce, and complaining that it was being enforced.

This proves you have a reading comprehension problem. Sirken never said this. Also, the links you provided we not regarding PNP but a single raid event where two guilds have a history of griefing. Only later to find out that a representative from SOE said they don't like or rarely interject in the manner the GM did. You must be reading what you expect to read not what people are actually writing to you. There is no point to argue with this individual if he isn't comprehending what we are all writing.

[Phantasm]

Welcome Ikon, new guide. Hes in charge of herding all the cats!

Either way, its a free server, dude. Chill out and have fun
Honestly have had like 5 issues in the 7 years Ive been on P99 and just about damn near all of them were addressed or resolved.

I think most important to note: Even if you do convince them GMs enforced the pnp, how you going to make them do that here? What are you trying to change? The free game we play has unpaid staff servicing it, gonna make a stink to them?

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The statement from Sirken was - "The PnP was not enforced on all servers".

wrong - you said rotations were enforced on every server, sirken said it wasn't true

Sirken's incorrect. There were rotations and they were enforced on live, no guild could repeatedly kill a mob(s) while denying it to others, especially trivial mobs, the only time a guild could have exclusive access to and farm a mob was when it was the only guild capable of killing that mob.

- Ikon, angry casual

maybe on your server, but that's hardly a universal truth among all servers

- Sirken

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds
some pixel nerds

please link me some more posts which disprove your terrible, pointless argument

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome Ikon, new guide. Hes in charge of herding all the cats!

Either way, its a free server, dude. Chill out and have fun
Honestly have had like 5 issues in the 7 years Ive been on P99 and just about damn near all of them were addressed or resolved.

I think most important to note: Even if you do convince them GMs enforced the pnp, how you going to make them do that here? What are you trying to change? The free game we play has unpaid staff servicing it, gonna make a stink to them?

More like herding monkeys to be honest. Look at the post above yours. I never linked anything to do with the PnP only 1 link regarding 1 raid....

I am having fun. This is called Rants and Flames for a reason, if they can't handle ranting and flaming they shouldn't be here.

[Phantasm]

Lots of research for someone having fun xD

Trying to convince people to play nice and getting backlash ~.~

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lots of research for someone having fun xD

Trying to convince people to play nice and getting backlash ~.~

Actually the research was done a while ago, its from the thread I created called "In regards to monopolizing a spawn". And I wouldn't be here if I was worried about "backlash".

I welcome stupid replies they're entertaining.

[botrainer]

Originally Posted by Linksfather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want Dragons , get your running shoes on like everyone else. Kill your fte target within a hour and run for the next one. Ohh... Like everyone else

These rules were pushed upon the server by the top 2 guilds, it wasnt agreed upon that "footraces" were the cure all be all to the problem on this server...it was to make it possible to cover more mobs, with fewer trackers....

Number of trackers / cothers needed for ToV / Kael weekly before footraces: Appox 3 PRE mob (wizard for TL box, FTE'er, coth mage)

Number of trackers needed for same mobs weekly: 1 group for ALL TOV dragons (1 to 2 trackers, 3 racers, now Spirit of wolf caster outside ToV) and 3 needed for Kael...

So going from 30 trackers needed weekly down to only needing 10, 1/3 the crew for the same outcome...Again back to my point of one guild making new rules to better suit their cause, I dont believe the whole server agreed on these terms.