Nice France terrorist attack

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and a bomb has way more potential

we banning fertilizer or diesel fuel

we banning trucks

we banning planes

the tool isnt irrelevant but scary black guns are not the problem either.

problem is crazy people, and with crazy people they will find a way to harm others. and since guns are a thing in modern society, they will find a way to get them

criminals/crazy people dont care about the law, they will get shit no matter what. make it harder, well it just means they will take an additional 2 months, where there is a will there is a way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gun crime is a fraction of what it is per capita in the UK as it is in the US. So does the UK just have a more well behaved populace or do gun laws work?

[Hoozi]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why hasn't a gov takeover happened in any other developed nation with gun restriction? You are paranoid dude it comes hand and hand with gun fetishism.

See my last post. You are naive.

Also, off the top of my head without even thinking about it: Germany.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Hoozi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That has literally nothing to do with this conversation about the government turning on the people.

Seriously - are you guys this blind to the entire point of the 2nd amendment? Let me give you a hint: it has nothing to do with hunting or target shooting.

we're not misunderstanding you. you think domestic gun ownership constitutes a viable resistance to the US military.

this is not the case.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you seen what happened in syria

pretty sure the anti gov people didnt have tanks and heavy arms before it started

Comparing the US to Syria.

I'm done, good day.

[Hoozi]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're not misunderstanding you. you think domestic gun ownership constitutes a viable resistance to the US military.

this is not the case.

I am not misunderstanding you either, but it is the case. Aside from a fierce resistance from the people, many die hard constitutional/2nd amendment in the military / police would abandon their post, the military would crumble. Our good men and women in the military take their oaths pretty fucking seriously.

Since most of you dont know wtf im talking about, here it is:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Hoozi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not misunderstanding you either, but it is the case. Aside from a fierce resistance from the people, many die hard constitutional/2nd amendment in the military / police would abandon their post, the military would crumble. Our good men and women in the military take their oaths pretty fucking seriously.

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol

it would be a sick red dawn cosplay though

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we banning fertilizer or diesel fuel

we banning trucks

we banning planes

that argument is such bullshit.

Yeah you can drive a truck over people and kill them. But it's not its primary use, and we need truck and cars to go around. Same with knives, you need them to cook and stuff. Or hammers.

The goal of guns is.. well, to kill. You can say "to defend myself" to be politically correct if you want, but in this way, defending yourself is killing, or at least seriously harming. I need a licence to drive a car, and several regulations apply on speed, belt, upkeep of the car, you have to actually see enough to drive it.. etc etc. Do you think it's the state opressing you with their road laws ? no, it's for the common good.

You can be blind and buy a gun in the usa. yep. i'm sure he'll be able to defend himself if the state sends SWAT teams against him.

[Hoozi]

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so do the men in blue

oath is oath

yup - meant to loop them in too, sorry!

[Pokesan]

how often do you weirdos fantasize about guerilla warring the inevitable government takeover?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that argument is such bullshit.

Yeah you can drive a truck over people and kill them. But it's not its primary use, and we need truck and cars to go around. Same with knives, you need them to cook and stuff. Or hammers.

The goal of guns is.. well, to kill. You can say "to defend myself" to be politically correct if you want, but in this way, defending yourself is killing, or at least seriously harming. I need a licence to drive a car, and several regulations apply on speed, belt, upkeep of the car, you have to actually see enough to drive it.. etc etc. Do you think it's the state opressing you with their road laws ? no, it's for the common good.

You can be blind and buy a gun in the usa. yep. i'm sure he'll be able to defend himself if the state sends SWAT teams against him.

Nah, you don't need any of those things to accomplish the task. They just make it easier. Here's the thing though, guns primary use isn't killing people. If we wanna compare apples to apples, let's. The vast majority of guns in the us are not used for killing people.