RMT Again

[MaSQue]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or #wipeitclean2015.

And spend the next year and a half (of classic timeline) getting ready to release Velious.

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or #wipeitclean2015.

And spend the next year and a half (of classic timeline) getting ready to release Velious.

Ya wiping it clean is the only way to rid this server of RMT once and for all! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Turp]

This idea would not work due to they make you pay as gift.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Turp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way you post here You think its easy to acquire 500k or w.e it takes to start a plat business. In reality it takes months or longer to get that kind of cash.
If they set up stings an bought plat , than busted the saler , than retracted their money threw paypal. They would end the king pin plat sales FOREVER.
Still would have your little men but there wont be a plat.com.
The Platlords would lose all their inventory, make no RL money , an yes they might try again. But after a few stings they would move on to another server.

It either has to be someone high profile (very good at computers) to keep in business for 4 years+ untouched.
Or staff haven't ran a sting to bust the big guy. They just focus on busting little buyers in hopes it works.
The real curb stomp would be a sting operation an rob the plat lords.
You rob them enough an they will give up.
No one is gonna keep trying to sale if you keep scamming them an busting them.
Banning only the buyers IMO just fuels the platlords to sale more.

Example:
Set up a order. for 200k or whatever. You Send the money paypal and say in description where you want your item delivered. Than get the plat, bust the guy , ban all his accounts, tell paypal you never got your item, get your money back. The Platlord loses months/years of his life and gains nothing.

Currently its :
Bust the buyer, maybe find the saler , platlord lives in a mansion because he gets to keep the money, and the cycle will continue.
Expect a "RMT ban wave" every year. Until someone decides to run a sting operation an really take out the king pins. Its not the buyers. You will never stop the buyers, its the salers. An can easily stop the salers. Just hasn't been done an anyone who ever mentioned setting up a sting operation it just got shut down fast by GM claiming it wouldn't work. If you rob the plat lords enough, it would work.

You act as though Platlord is the only person that sells plat. There are dozens of people that sell plat/items/accounts on this server. And the sellers take extra special care to not get caught i would presume such as using VPN's, multiple accounts etc.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You act as though Platlord is the only person that sells plat. There are dozens of people that sell plat/items/accounts on this server. And the sellers take extra special care to not get caught i would presume such as using VPN's, multiple accounts etc.

There are a few platlords im sure. I was not meaning the actual one Platlord.
But all big timers. Thats why i said Plat lords
Yes they use every tactic you mentioned.
But you could order an buy from them. They sale to anyone. Order it, bust them. Retract the money. They get nothing, they lose a lot. If repeated enough it would curb the big salers down.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Turp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a few platlords im sure. I was not meaning the actual one Platlord.
But all big timers. Thats why i said Plat lords
Yes they use every tactic you mentioned.
But you could order an buy from them. They sale to anyone. Order it, bust them. Retract the money. They get nothing, they lose a lot. If repeated enough it would curb the big salers down.

Paypal would start frowning upon the chargebacks after awhile. But in the end if they wanted to yes they could do those things to try and catch the sellers but they could also be wasting time and hit a dead end depending on how well the seller covered their tracks.

[Kender]

everyones assuming rogean isnt smart enough to follow a plat trail to the sellers.

remember, everything is logged. He knew enough to say one seller was responsible for 185 bans. are you trying to say that he ddint get the seller too?

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyones assuming rogean isnt smart enough to follow a plat trail to the sellers.

remember, everything is logged. He knew enough to say one seller was responsible for 185 bans. are you trying to say that he ddint get the seller too?

Nah Rogean got the saler. Just saying they could get more salers too.


Yea Thulack paypal would get pissy after about the 3rd try. You would have to do multiple paypal accounts. It is a big job. But it would eventually kill out plat.com sites.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prais Haynar and Glenzig for sound reasoning.

Failure to ban the end users (whomever they may be) opens up an avenue to protected RMT, because the RMTer could then just create a dummy account (supposed newb RMT buyer) whom they could then channel funds through to the real end recipient as payment for high end items (also a part of the RMT) or masquerade as legit MQers. Consider the following:

Character A gives 100kpp to Character B
Character B buys Fungi from Character C
Character B buys MQ epic from Character D
Character D transfers money to mule Character E

Who's innocent?




The RMT supplier could control any of the following groups of characters:

A, C, D, E
A, C, D
A, B, C
A, B
A
Or even A, B, C, D and E just to create confusion in logs and lose the real transactions in a sea of seemingly legit ones.

I've thought too much about this and not written enough so it probably doesn't make sense. But it does! Just stare at it :P. ^^

Sounds like the mind set of someone who thinks like a real money trader. (A)

Must be a real money trader. (B)

Burn him!!! (C)

[maskedmelon]

I do not have enough plats to sell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If I were involved in RMT it would have to be on the consumer end... I mean.... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!