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Old 01-18-2015, 08:46 PM
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More men get raped than women yet "don't drop the soap" is somehow different from a 'rape joke'. Sexual consent is a joke thanks to modern feminism (see: California law defining consent)
Unbridled hate of white people is accepted and even encouraged.
Gender identification is not a hard science and next to nothing is known about gender dysmorphia so addressing it would be like addressing cold fusion, more info required, until then nothing can be done.

You then went on to say pornography was an 'issue' and I stopped reading.
False equivalency + hyperbole + bad faith interpretation of research + unhinged delusion

C-C-C-Combo! Stop taking this idiot seriously he has nothing valid or interesting to say.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:49 PM
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:51 PM
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You then went on to say pornography was an 'issue' and I stopped reading.
Yeah, this is usually where I diverge from most feminists, but if I'm being honest the writing of Dworkin on pornography was probably the most important thing I've ever read in my life. I don't expect anyone else to agree, but I think this is something on which she was decades if not centuries ahead of her time. I think, and I hope that in humanity's future we'll not just see pornography itself evaporate but also the need and the desire for it, the thing that gives us such an appetite for it.

That's probably as radical as I get.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:52 PM
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False equivalency + hyperbole + bad faith interpretation of research + unhinged delusion .
Gonna need to break that down because as it stands you aren't with any effort beyond, sorry you're wrong on all counts. Facts are facts and the facts don't lie. Facts aren't biased, facts don't care about your feelings.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:56 PM
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Yeah, this is usually where I diverge from most feminists, but if I'm being honest the writing of Dworkin on pornography was probably the most important thing I've ever read in my life. I don't expect anyone else to agree, but I think this is something on which she was decades if not centuries ahead of her time. I think, and I hope that in humanity's future we'll not just see pornography itself evaporate but also the need and the desire for it, the thing that gives us such an appetite for it.

That's probably as radical as I get.
You keep bringing up the same person. I thought you were one of the ones here who criticized idol worship.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:58 PM
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I meant name three individuals...
I don't know their names, but they're out there. I'd argue anyone who is transsexual has good reason to speak out against shitty societal standards and the gender binary, anyone who has been raped, anyone who has been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, and so forth.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:59 PM
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You keep bringing up the same person. I thought you were one of the ones here who criticized idol worship.
Only when the idol is unworthy of worship.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:02 PM
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Only when the idol is unworthy of worship.
I now know why 6 million Jews were able to be systematically exterminated.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:05 PM
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Well, antisemitism is more an affliction or a mental illness than an idol to be worshiped, so I'd disagree with you there.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:10 PM
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I don't know their names, but they're out there. I'd argue anyone who is transsexual has good reason to speak out against shitty societal standards and the gender binary, anyone who has been raped, anyone who has been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, and so forth.
I'm not asking for anecdotes, generalizations, assumptions, or victims of individuals.
I'm asking for specific people who have explicitly suffered due to verified systematicly oppressive systems.

Show me the patriarchy boogeyman, not simply a sexist man. Show me the white man putting down the black man, not anecdotes of racist cops and hillbillies. Show gay people being oppressed because heterosexuals exist not because of religious bigotry.
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