attention RL info posting nerds

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope so, Hotpockets are gross.

Diarrhea pockets.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you're joking.

I'm joking only to an extent. I think outsourcing investigation duties to certain players with high play times and an vested interest in uncovering RMT violations could be an interesting solution provided they had a limited Dev tool kit and exactly zero ability to affect the game outside of recording logs and developing evidence.

*Disclaimer: I am not a programmer, I have no clue what this would entail. Yes, Derubael i have no clue what im talkig about. You asked for ideas so I'm throwing them out.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm joking only to an extent. I think outsourcing investigation duties to certain players with high play times and an vested interest in uncovering RMT violations could be an interesting solution provided they had a limited Dev tool kit and exactly zero ability to affect the game outside of recording logs and developing evidence.

*Disclaimer: I am not a programmer, I have no clue what this would entail. Yes, Derubael i have no clue what im talkig about. You asked for ideas so I'm throwing them out.

This would only serve to increase the theories of server corruption. It would be even more possible to either fabricate logs to get someone banned, or have an RMT kingpin sneak in and undermine the entire process to a larger extent than people already feel they are able to. It also wouldn't increase GM transparency,as everyone seems to be eminently concerned with.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would only serve to increase the theories of server corruption. It would be even more possible to either fabricate logs to get someone banned, or have an RMT kingpin sneak in and undermine the entire process to a larger extent than people already feel they are able to. It also wouldn't increase GM transparency,as everyone seems to be eminently concerned with.

That depends on whether the evidence they developed could be manipulated or not. A system where they were only able to flag questionable content for review might work. Regardless, there appears to already be methods the GMs are willing to accept as proof as we've seen in the recent bannings.

Maybe the GMs would never even act on information developed by young detectives but at the very least it might slow RMTers down with the thought that people who severely dislike them are looking for any slip up.

[Duckwalk]

And its also explicitly stated thry they don't reccomend sharing accounts and that you do so at your own risk. You are responsible for your account at all times.

[Detoxx]

Whos Duckwalk?

[Ambrotos]

Sure. Everyone believes you Jeremy. Keep right on.

[Kekephee]

Actually, don't answer that, it doesn't matter anyway, fuckin thing is over, I'm moving on

[Fael]

Loraen said that the entity trained should determine who is responsible--or at least whether it would be deemed a raid violation or not.

Thus, since 30 bda got trained and 30 bda are a raid then one intentional train by person in guild X should constitute guild action and raid interference.

Dolic

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loraen said that the entity trained should determine who is responsible--or at least whether it would be deemed a raid violation or not.

Thus, since 30 bda got trained and 30 bda are a raid then one intentional train by person in guild X should constitute guild action and raid interference.

Dolic

Would you say the presence of guild leadership at an event constitutes a guild event, since guild officers are understood to be guild officers 24/7, always representing and responsible for their guild? It's not like we're talking about 4 people who happen to be tagged in a guild just hanging out and one of them does something stupid. Although, even if we were, an argument could pretty easily be made that since the group is composed entirely of members of a guild, they, too, are representing said guild, and accountable as representatives of that guild for their actions, right?


I don't care about the train or any of this anymore, I'm just interested philosophically since you're bringing legal arguments into the discussion