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[derpcake]

There are simply to many people with characters that are too strong on this server.

Without a rotation, the batphone crew gets everything, with a rotation, hardly anyone gets anything.

Solutions would have to go further then (somewhat) equally dividing encounters. If every guild gets 1 Trakanon every 2 months, thats a massive 6 trakanons a year, I wouldn't want to key a guild like that.

Suggested solution; make raid mobs drop no-drop tokens which GMs can turn into appropriate loot.

This way raid loot can be adjusted so that it is less interesting from a RMT or a lol-4th-twink-item, which would stop the batphone bullshit.

There is no perfect solution to this problem, even the launch of verrrrriouuuuus would simply deplace the problem.

Alternative /complementary solution 1; give people something in exchange for them giving up a lvl 55+ alt. Stuff like a deceivers guise, a unique illusion or a title, a sex-change, whatever doesn't affect power level too much and gets high lvl characters off the server.

Alternative /complementary solution 2; look into the RMTing and hacking and exploiting closer and ban as many as possible. Less lvl 60s will make the server beter for everyone, and do we really want to favor RMTers over legit players?

Currently I see 9 kids in a room, several of them very angry, and they are trying to divide a basketball in 9 equal pieces.

Guess which of them is going to have fun with their 1/9th of a basketball. Not the guys that used to own the field, and not the guys that were never able to play.

Then again this server has its peculiar situation, where even if everyone playing on it loses - some still win.

Really, the best solution would be to ban as many as a reason can be found for.

Flamed on forum? B&

Poopsock? B&

Made a halfling rogue? B&

Really the main problem this server has atm is its population, which is too strong and to plentiful for the content to accomodate.

Start cleaning up broskis. You know you want to, the community wants the result from it, and the only people you will slight are those with dubious backgrounds anyway.

Get out your b&hammers.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are simply to many people with characters that are too strong on this server.

Without a rotation, the batphone crew gets everything, with a rotation, hardly anyone gets anything.

Solutions would have to go further then (somewhat) equally dividing encounters. If every guild gets 1 Trakanon every 2 months, thats a massive 6 trakanons a year, I wouldn't want to key a guild like that.

Suggested solution; make raid mobs drop no-drop tokens which GMs can turn into appropriate loot.

This way raid loot can be adjusted so that it is less interesting from a RMT or a lol-4th-twink-item, which would stop the batphone bullshit.

There is no perfect solution to this problem, even the launch of verrrrriouuuuus would simply deplace the problem.

Alternative /complementary solution 1; give people something in exchange for them giving up a lvl 55+ alt. Stuff like a deceivers guise, a unique illusion or a title, a sex-change, whatever doesn't affect power level too much and gets high lvl characters off the server.

Alternative /complementary solution 2; look into the RMTing and hacking and exploiting closer and ban as many as possible. Less lvl 60s will make the server beter for everyone, and do we really want to favor RMTers over legit players?

Currently I see 9 kids in a room, several of them very angry, and they are trying to divide a basketball in 9 equal pieces.

Guess which of them is going to have fun with their 1/9th of a basketball. Not the guys that used to own the field, and not the guys that were never able to play.

Then again this server has its peculiar situation, where even if everyone playing on it loses - some still win.

Really, the best solution would be to ban as many as a reason can be found for.

Flamed on forum? B&

Poopsock? B&

Made a halfling rogue? B&

Really the main problem this server has atm is its population, which is too strong and to plentiful for the content to accomodate.

Start cleaning up broskis. You know you want to, the community wants the result from it, and the only people you will slight are those with dubious backgrounds anyway.

Get out your b&hammers.

we don't need a drastic solution to a temporary problem that will work itself mostly out come velious.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we don't need a drastic solution to a temporary problem that will work itself mostly out come velious.

Yes, I am sure that the current batphone-guilds won't move into velious, and will permacamp stuff like vindi / KT etc, until they can move upwards.

Meaning everyone not in those batphone guilds has acces to 0 raid content in velious.

I know you think this will be great, but people like you reasoning that way has brought the server to its current stage.

A permanent solution is needed.

If you deplace this problem to velious, TMO-like people, of which there are an abundance on this server, will just farm Kael 500 times until everyone and their grandchildren has forgotten about EQ. That doesn't sound like a promising future for P99.

I am perfectly ok with guilds dominating, reward for play, etc ... but is an EMU server really the place for that?

I was in a top 5 EQlive guild for over 10 years, and sure, I often thread on casual toes.

But 14 years after the content went live?

Batphoning it?

Some people really need a non-EQ hobby, this is coming from someone that once had 11k posts on eqlive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fountree]

Yes, I specifically said "Variance" there. Way to quote on something never typed. You're a smart one.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I specifically said "Variance" there. Way to quote on something never typed. You're a smart one.

You say the way the game was meant to be played. It was never meant to be played with Variance, everything was supposed to spawn 3 or 7 days later. So lets play it the way it was meant to be played, a giant FTE-fest every 3 and 7 days.

[Fountree]

Why is the batphone limiting? It's well within the grasp of others to do the same thing. You just choose not to take advantage of that tactic. Sorry, you lose now.

I don't care about live either, could care less about your old guilds and your old exploits. P99 is about Classic EverQuest. That needs to preserve a competitive atmosphere of some kind or it's no longer EQ. Sorry.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is the batphone limiting? It's well within the grasp of others to do the same thing. You just choose not to take advantage of that tactic. Sorry, you lose now.

I don't care about live either, could care less about your old guilds and your old exploits. P99 is about Classic EverQuest. That needs to preserve a competitive atmosphere of some kind or it's no longer EQ. Sorry.

The batphone is a lifestyle.

While you may think it is grand to wake up in the middle of the night, to kill a dragon I could solo AFK with any of my 3 alts on eqlive, other people might just not care as much.

Or you know, they could have stuff like jobs and families, and while I'm sure your lesbian-pornstar-wife and 3 harvard kids have no issues with you waking up in the middle of the night to "slay the dragon", not everyone is as fortunate as you.

Please give these fine people, wether they care less or have less fortunate real lives then you, a moment of thought.

They would like to "slay the dragon", you understand this - you get up for it in the middle of the night.

One day they would perhaps also like to "join the uberguild", but I guess that is no concern of yours, and its best if they piss off now being the pansies they are.

/shrug. I think you are a fine example of why guilds like Assent, and longer Term Triality failed. Zero long term vision, alienating others, thereby killing the community and not recruiting what remains.

Again, you are on P99, not on EQlive. More I need not say.

[Fael]

Derpcake,

No one cares how elite you were 10 years ago.


Thanks,

Dolic

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derpcake,

No one cares how elite you were 10 years ago.


Thanks,

Dolic

Hey I soloed more trakanons then TMO will get in 2014!

Thought that might not be quite as indicative as I wanted to be. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you are 100% right bro. Much like noone cares about the elite on P99, except the elite themselves, and they really are a tiny minority.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey I soloed more trakanons then TMO will get in 2014!

Thought that might not be quite as indicative as I wanted to be. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you are 100% right bro. Much like noone cares about the elite on P99, except the elite themselves, and they really are a tiny minority.

400+ players isn't such a tiny minority on a server with a rough 1k peak population.