Raid Scene Poll

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two years of Kunark = Burn out of members = Need new members = Recruitment.

Where normal people would say...

2 years of Kunark = Take a break.

[cyryllis]

If we took a break, then when velious hits we wouldnt be on our A game and couldnt be guaranteed to have a ready and capable force day 1.

With that being said, we are all still curious to see how many old members also return for that day. Many have quit until velious or so they said. Will be fun to see 2000 population or something close between all of the other people who have stopped over the years

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where normal people would say...

2 years of Kunark = Take a break.

We have taken breaks. And came back. And took breaks. And came back. Been here for over 4 years mang, it takes its toll :3

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where normal people would say...

2 years of Kunark = Take a break.

yeah, really common for an entire guild to take a break all at once as opposed to people taking breaks when it's most convenient to them and the guild as a whole still operating and functioning as normal.

[Lazie]

Listen most of you are decent people but when you spend 2 years locking down everything and refusing to work with people and instead point at the price you are selling epic pieces etc... You aren't really gearing out a guild. You are gearing out people who farm plat. So the excuse that you are gearing out new players doesn't make sense when you are selling a large portion of the drops.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen most of you are decent people but when you spend 2 years locking down everything and refusing to work with people and instead point at the price you are selling epic pieces etc... You aren't really gearing out a guild. You are gearing out people who farm plat. So the excuse that you are gearing out new players doesn't make sense when you are selling a large portion of the drops.

Gear is only one part of the game and it's a small part.

Just because the gain is small doesn't mean it's nonexistent. TMO continued to do what they were doing so they wouldn't have to worry much (any) about competition in Velious.

The more well off the members are in gear, plat, status, characters, etc the better the guild is and the happier everyone wearing at TMO tag is.

You keep whining about how things are because you're unhappy with your guild and TMO keeps whining about how you guys are because they are happy with their guild.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO continued to do what they were doing so they wouldn't have to worry much (any) about competition in Velious.

TMO forum trolls won't admit this. They all claim they want competition.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gear is only one part of the game and it's a small part.

Just because the gain is small doesn't mean it's nonexistent. TMO continued to do what they were doing so they wouldn't have to worry much (any) about competition in Velious.

The more well off the members are in gear, plat, status, characters, etc the better the guild is and the happier everyone wearing at TMO tag is.

You keep whining about how things are because you're unhappy with your guild and TMO keeps whining about how you guys are because they are happy with their guild.

That is a minimalist view of it.

Also TMO is was past the point where they needed to worry about guild matching them in gear before Velious drops almost a year ago. They have been set for awhile especially if their dormant players do return for Velious. Again they played under the rules and there was nothing wrong with that. The stance they took however alienated a lot of people from feeling any remorse when they did get nuked.

No one is whining for pointing out the facts of the situation FYI.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a minimalist view of it.

Also TMO is was past the point where they needed to worry about guild matching them in gear before Velious drops almost a year ago. They have been set for awhile especially if their dormant players do return for Velious. Again they played under the rules and there was nothing wrong with that. The stance they took however alienated a lot of people from feeling any remorse when they did get nuked.

No one is whining for pointing out the facts of the situation FYI.

You keep talking about gear as if it matters and understood nothing.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep talking about gear as if it matters and understood nothing.

I mention gear because it is the excuse many still in TMO use. They say they were after gear for newer members. It is about gearing or stopping another guild from getting geared however. Choose which excuse is convenient for you that is what has been stated by members. There is no prestige left (For TMO) to still be killing Trak and VP. They proved they could do it. At this point it is about stifling growth of other guilds for competition. Which in turn hurts the whole server.