PvP Level Range on R99

[Dullah]

I'm all for removing FFA on any zone where a dragon doesn't currently reside. (ie its been killed)

That said, if you don't know how to avoid getting ganked at 52, 4 levels isn't going to save you.

[Retti_]

A lvl 52 melee can barely hit a lvl 60.

If the lvl 60 is a monk
he's nearly invincible with natural avoidance + lvl advantage.

[Retti_]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for removing FFA on any zone where a dragon doesn't currently reside. (ie its been killed)

That said, if you don't know how to avoid getting ganked at 52, 4 levels isn't going to save you.

It's doable but only the sickest individuals will spend 3 hours dodging a group of level 60s in a single night.

Like when dentists (myself Hughman nerfed kring lime etc) ported around several hours going to seb kc com hole Chardok dodging like 2 groups of nihilum with bloodlust.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol 52+ exp zones:

Guk (shitty and away from any zonelines, not enough mobs to sustain a group but doable)

SolB right next to a port and really easily accessible. Also FFA so lvl 35s getting royal groups can get 1 spotted by 60s. Efreeti/bugs only options. Pvp can happen 4 seconds after they zone in if they know your there. Be on your toes.

Karnors lol good luck. Pit stop for Kunark ports, your lucky to have 15 minutes of uninterrupted exp. Only with guild support or lowest pop play times is this viable. Faction makes pvp favorable/unfavorable if you even attempt.

Kedge only so good up to mid 50s

COM pvp all day, high ground wizards sunstriking lvl 52s. Have an alt or be prepared to plug frequently and slow role it if solo. Fake groups I.e. join and 1 shot when low hp. Don't bother unless you can have 2 or 3 groups to lock it down and defend from enemy guild pvp.

Sebilis viable, camp or evacuation if 60s come in. Hope your session lasted long enough to make it worth.

High keep solo only, starved for mobs.

Perma bear pits no charmer (druid preferred) no dice. Out of the way. Real risky for melee. FFA.

Chardok one of the best options because it's not frequently visited but everything's a caster and it's ez to get trained by yourself. Need good group class makeup. Azrael and Nihilum each have people with faction in here. 1 lvl 60 with faction can wipe your entire group. Have a good CR.

The Hole is another best option because it's out of the way and not frequently checked. Need a porter to get out once you drop down. Need a cleric and an enchanter.

These are the options people have. Making them deal with 60s while having these options is discouraging. Even with ez fast exp. Being forced to camp or plug or get Ytd by someone 8 lvl higher or a group of people 8 lvls higher slowly eats people's moral and enthusiasm to level up. Even if they can get 10 the normal exp rate people want to play not be forced to not play.

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[Dacuk]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The vast majority of 60s on red99 are within Nihilum and as a general policy we are anti grief.

Wow you are wearing serious blinders homie. I came back to the server a few months after kunark and was griefed daily by nihilum level 60s the second i hit 52 (tune nearly always involved, Nizzarr about half the time).

Definitely made me take some extended breaks due to the nuisance of griefing, and to hear you say nihilum is anti griefing is truly pathetic. Btw this was before azrael existed.

[Lawler]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The vast majority of 60s on red99 are within Nihilum and as a general policy we are anti-grief.

Aren't 90% of Tunes kills mid-low 50's?

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These are the options people have. Making them deal with 60s while having these options is discouraging. Even with ez fast exp. Being forced to camp or plug or get Ytd by someone 8 lvl higher or a group of people 8 lvls higher slowly eats people's moral and enthusiasm to level up. Even if they can get 10 the normal exp rate people want to play not be forced to not play.

Yes these are the options you have.

AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS IS A PVPER SERVER OMG

PVP WILL HAPPEN

IF YOU DONT LIKE PVP, RED IS NOT FOR YOU

PLEASE GO TO BLUE.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes these are the options you have.

AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS IS A PVPER SERVER OMG

PVP WILL HAPPEN

IF YOU DONT LIKE PVP, RED IS NOT FOR YOU

PLEASE GO TO BLUE.

You can force your friend to play the bobcats while you play the 96 bulls in nba2k also, and run the score up. That's also pvp rite? Some of you ppl are prolly the same faggots that forced your friends when you were growing up to keep rolling the dice when you had like 15 hotels on the board and ur friend had like Baltic Avenue, just so you could collect his last dollar, or when you had 50000 troops and ur friend had like 10 troops left in irkust or some shit and you made him roll it out.

[Andis]

stop bitching about pvp seriously makes my brain hurt

the zones that have a FFA, must have one for a reason

its classic right? get over it

[heartbrand]

Actually it's not classic which is kind of the point