So how are ya'll liking Obamacare these days?

[runlvlzero]

Also you can start with history - right around 1776 and look at how things have changed/developed slowly over the last two centuries.

I have a deep feel that Radditsu smoked weed and flunked history.

[runlvlzero]

Lastly, and I doubt you can do this... you can analyze and brainstorm some solutions/changes you think would make the government more efficient and effective at, y'know, doing the things it was supposed to do.

Even if you yourself cannot enact them, or work them out. You can at least do the thought exercise and research to become more informed for when you are able to make a choice.

[Kagatob]

Please stop quad posting. Finish a thought before hitting that little button.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop quad posting. Finish a thought before hitting that little button.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop quad posting. Finish a thought before hitting that little button.

I assume you are talking about runlvlzero digital diahrehha.

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[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Debt =/ deficit.

Please explain how you get debt without a running a deficit in your budget.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please explain how you get debt without a running a deficit in your budget.

Deficit and debt are two different things. I learned that in econ101 10 years ago. If you want to come at me about economics, your ass needs to come correct and refute the points I make. Not twist them due to ignoance of basic economic turns.


http://www.treasurydirect.gov/news/p...pd08052004.htm


Something to listen to get you started:
http://www.marketplace.org


Warning slight liberal bias. They hide it well.

[Nuggie]

Thanks for the education. So let me come at it from a different angle.

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WE HAD NO DEFICIT BEFORE DUBYAH. We were balanced.

How about this link

It shows 12 years of surplus' since 1940. Many more deficits. Which is the point I was trying to make in the first place.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup he lied to try to get bills passed. Welcome to America. In five years shit will be water under a bridge. Just like good ol Romney-care...which sucked at first too.

Romney care still sucks but at least it's contained to just one state.

You really think this will be water under a bridge in five years? Yeah maybe if it's repealed. Give it a year from now and see what shit happens. We aren't even up to the employer mandate yet. Premiums will be rising and more and more people will be pissed. The only people who won't be pissed are the ones who are getting it for free and the ones with preexisting conditions who are gonna cost the insurance companies millions, who won't be subsidized by the young and healthy because they want no fucking part of this shit. Just about everyone who's signed up for this are either old or have preexisting conditions that cost a lot. Why do you think the insurance companies keep having meetings with him?

And then there's this shit about secret deals with Iran. I don't know enough about it yet but wtf. This guy's such a fucking idiot. We all know why he won both elections though and man did people get trolled hard.

[Nuggie]

If this deal with Iran pulls through it will be the greatest thing that came out of Obama's presidency. Glad the old Iranian president got voted out so this could happen. Whether it was under a Democrat or Republican.