Training in Veeshan's peak?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*As long as you are willing to purposely train other players or be trained yourself and corpse camped for hours or days.


You forgot the disclaimer there.

I put a disclaimer at KC zone in too.

[Mud]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...but that doesn't mean they have to keep something on lockdown and NEVER let anyone have a shot at it.

Their items will be "less shiny" if others are able to obtain them.

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Mud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their items will be "less shiny" if others are able to obtain them.

Those people still have to earn the items though. They have to reach a level sufficient enough to enter the zone/engage the mob, amount a force large enough to bring it down, and actually bring it down without wiping.

[Mud]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those people still have to earn the items though. They have to reach a level sufficient enough to enter the zone/engage the mob, amount a force large enough to bring it down, and actually bring it down without wiping.

Sounds like classic EQ to me (sans the bit about training and variance).

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those people still have to earn the items though. They have to reach a level sufficient enough to enter the zone/engage the mob, amount a force large enough to bring it down, and actually bring it down without wiping.

That would mean current raid guilds would split up into smaller guilds. Without training you can kill the hardest dragon in the game with 18 people. It would mean 30-40 guilds on a rotation on a once a week spawning mob.

[Jingleson]

Alright, well I guess I shouldn't say anymore. I haven't been around long enough to understand the politics of end-game raiding and progression on P99. Maybe when I'm a higher level I can voice my opinion a little better.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, well I guess I shouldn't say anymore. I haven't been around long enough to understand the politics of end-game raiding and progression on P99. Maybe when I'm a higher level I can voice my opinion a little better.

Its just a problem with on EQ... the raid scene doesn't support that many players.
Not to mention the amount of time spent in Kunark here.

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its just a problem with on EQ... the raid scene doesn't support that many players.
Not to mention the amount of time spent in Kunark here.

As long as the Ranger epic is doable later without being in TMO, as people are telling me to stay away from for unknown reasons.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its just a problem with on EQ... the raid scene doesn't support that many players.
Not to mention the amount of time spent in Kunark here.

The latter is the biggest problem here. If this server had progressed on time you'd have way less problems.

[Rallyd]

Eqmac players had their server shut down by SOE because of this very subject.. do we really want to keep the rules as per standard and lose these incoming players? I don't think so.