Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're terminology of fun vs mine is 2 completely different things. I actually enjoy training people in VP. Doesn't mean I like to train people outside of there does it? So lets make VP a non trained zone k, whats next? lets make a rotation? and after? you kill he dragon for me and just give me the loot? You want the pixels you fight for them.

No one wants a rotation I love actual competition and not griefing.

[Ele]

I don't understand the mentality that derives enjoyment out of ruining other people's gaming experience e.g training and PKing.

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your knowledge of live is lacking...A lot of loot from VP wasn't discovered until Velious. The timeline here is messed up which is why this discussion is being broached in the first place. Also the training rules in VP would still affect those guilds come velious which is why it needs to be discussed. No offense the server doesn't start and end with where TMO currently is. I have friends in your guild and I honestly do not have many hard feelings at all towards you guys... This is an honest discussion about this. It is not to gain an advantage for anyone. You guys still have the same numbers and mobilization to not lose much even without training. If you said train wars happened in Kunark in VP over Phara Dar etc I have to question your credibility.

Not my thread, show me something that says it wasn't aloud. Thanks

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um yah, rez sticks are almost invaluable in velious. And at this current time Bladestoppers are a monks best friend. So these targets will still be actively killed.

Your knowledge again fails you. People weren't hoarding those items on live for Velious. No offense we are more knowledgeable now than then but stop pretending this was ever normal practice in kunark on live.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're terminology of fun vs mine is 2 completely different things. I actually enjoy training people in VP. Doesn't mean I like to train people outside of there does it? So lets make VP a non trained zone k, whats next? lets make a rotation? and after? you kill he dragon for me and just give me the loot? You want the pixels you fight for them.

What is your logic behind training being allowed in VP vs outside of VP? I mean, what is the difference? Like vianna mentioned it takes away from the competition, and it really has no place in everquest raiding.

[radditsu]

@sirken

I love you man but your pvp mentality causes issues on a blue server sometimes. People play blue to race to mobs and play the content. Not dealing with griefers.

If a guild has enough trak kills for keys, the have every right to be there unmolested (intentionally).

Killing trak 15 times is plenty of work to slay more dragons that drop suspect weaponry cum velious and a crown and a robe.

[quido]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FE would poopsock PD for a week straight just like they do VS if it wasn't for the current ruleset. I think we should extend the VP rules to the VS pit in KC.

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cmon guy stop rants and flaming in my post seriously, if you're going to post atleast offer some logical explanation why training needs to be allowed. Especially considering TMO has had pretty much free reign over VP uncontested for a long time, whats to bad about a little change? You guys want competition right? Why can't it be more fair competition?

This isn't RnFing your post - it's a pretty solid reason among a number of others, in my opinion.

Tasslehof, did you ever think that the staff said to themselves "well shit is going to happen in VP, rules or not, and we don't need another slew of headaches each week," or something to this effect? VP is a large and dangerous zone - shit is going to happen. I can't really blame the staff for not wanting to deal with it. There's damn near 100 zones in which you can play PetitionQuest - I personally am thankful that VP is not one of them because I think if they were forced to sort out foul play issues here, it would seriously discourage action from being taken anywhere.

I'm going for a boat ride - I will add more to this later!

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your knowledge again fails you. People weren't hoarding those items on live for Velious. No offense we are more knowledgeable now than then but stop pretending this was ever normal practice in kunark on live.

You are blind and must have been in a low tier gear if you dont believe top tier guilds were hoarding these items for Velious. But this doesn't surprise me.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand the mentality that derives enjoyment out of ruining other people's gaming experience e.g training and PKing.

So true, even on live when i first started I'll admit i did some dickhole things to grief people, training guards over camps so when they path back they agro people etc etc. none of it was fun for me and im sure it wasn't for them.

No idea how people can enjoy spending hours just training each other, i would rather give them the mob and call it done then screw off for hours training JUST so the other guild cant get the mob, not so we can get it but so they can't

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't RnFing your post - it's a pretty solid reason among a number of others, in my opinion.

Tasslehof, did you ever think that the staff said to themselves "well shit is going to happen in VP, rules or not, and we don't need another slew of headaches each week," or something to this effect?

I'm going for a boat ride - I will add more to this later!

why even impliment vp or start this porject at all if they don't want to deal with the headache.

Remove VP, that'll make everyone happy.

enjoy the boat trip, drink many beers and don't fall off the side =p