Teams - whats better?

[Stasis01]

Sry tune.

[heartbrand]

Are people really debating teams on a 150 player box? You guys think there's hundreds of hidden players out there waiting for a teams server? You think this won't just be another zerg fest? We're really discussing this when resists are still broken 2 years later? Lol?

Let prophet HB tell you how this one will play out. Week 1 huge numbers 400-600 players having a blast. Week 2, down to the 350 range. Week 3 heading into the 200's during daytime. Week 4 peaking @ 200 during prime time. Week 8, one zerg guild had taken over by this point, pop barely hanging onto triple digits primetime. GG. The pop on red is low because 1) not enough people care about red99 on planet earth, 2) resists are awful, 3) boxing isn't allowed so you need to guild with tons of people you normally wouldn't play with in order to accomplish things, 4) the VZTZ crowd is the worst group of sociopaths to ever play a MMO.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zergs will always matter, but without xp loss, it would be a totally different experience, i guarantee that.

That is, if the server can reach a minimum of pop that makes smaller crews viable. Of course if 50 people play and you got 35 people in the zerg, thats not going to happen.

With that minimal pop attained, you can have ghetto eve online politics where 2-3 smaller guilds agree to join forces for a tactical advantage (TM) either on a regular basis or in a timely manner, like to fuck up a particular raid on a particular night.

It did not happen on Red99 because you could not motivate people to get more than one or two hits of xp loss before they gave up. So things never really got a chance to heat up where the zergs batphone for backups and the smaller crews batphone for backup and it culminates in some huge pixel gank orgy gameplay experience. Sorry got a bit carried away there.

This kind of fluidity in team setup, you will not get with set in stone, hard coded teams. Well less of it, anyway. To see the kind of damage i think zergs have done to this server, i think we need FFA if server gets rebooted.

Don't be lame; teams are awesome.

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are people really debating teams on a 150 player box? You guys think there's hundreds of hidden players out there waiting for a teams server? You think this won't just be another zerg fest? We're really discussing this when resists are still broken 2 years later? Lol?

Let prophet HB tell you how this one will play out. Week 1 huge numbers 400-600 players having a blast. Week 2, down to the 350 range. Week 3 heading into the 200's during daytime. Week 4 peaking @ 200 during prime time. Week 8, one zerg guild had taken over by this point, pop barely hanging onto triple digits primetime. GG. The pop on red is low because 1) not enough people care about red99 on planet earth, 2) resists are awful, 3) boxing isn't allowed so you need to guild with tons of people you normally wouldn't play with in order to accomplish things, 4) the VZTZ crowd is the worst group of sociopaths to ever play a MMO.

Why wouldn't teams increase the pop some? I could see more bluebies joining us because of the increased level of safety, and a few people that don't play Red99 are already showing interest in this thread.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are people really debating teams on a 150 player box? You guys think there's hundreds of hidden players out there waiting for a teams server? You think this won't just be another zerg fest? We're really discussing this when resists are still broken 2 years later? Lol?

Let prophet HB tell you how this one will play out. Week 1 huge numbers 400-600 players having a blast. Week 2, down to the 350 range. Week 3 heading into the 200's during daytime. Week 4 peaking @ 200 during prime time. Week 8, one zerg guild had taken over by this point, pop barely hanging onto triple digits primetime. GG. The pop on red is low because 1) not enough people care about red99 on planet earth, 2) resists are awful, 3) boxing isn't allowed so you need to guild with tons of people you normally wouldn't play with in order to accomplish things, 4) the VZTZ crowd is the worst group of sociopaths to ever play a MMO.

tldr

LOL this novel writer is currently trying to convince another thread that hes not one of the immersed ones.

[Faerie]

If training is legal I'm not playing, though :P

But yes, the teams are pretty much decided at this point, they just seem to be torn on the issue of merging good/neutral.

[liveitup1216]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If training is legal I'm not playing, though :P

But yes, the teams are pretty much decided at this point, they just seem to be torn on the issue of merging good/neutral.

I wouldn't merge them. This player base is far different than the original live SZ. I feel 3 teams could work here. And if it doesn't you'd still have a better setup than FFA xteam/oor fest red is now. Also yes leave the training/etc part out, that's what destroyed Sullon too.

[Stasis01]

Inc HB lawyering to explain why anything other than free static mob uncontested dragons for Nihilum won't work.

[SamwiseRed]

so being from paineel means you are the evil of the evil?

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so being from paineel means you are the evil of the evil?

Actually yes, Cazic and Inno are about the most hated and feared, and the Paineel erudites want domination over everything in the most tyrannical way and are willing to stop at nothing to get it. Hence Paineel. They don't consider their actions and even if Paineel wasn't their fault they still were a party to it and have no remorse. Innoruuk worshipers don't mind the servitude of other worshippers. Cazic worshippers just want everyone to fear them and acknowledge them as #1 badasses. Inno lawful evil, Cazic straight up Chaotic Evil. Only might makes right.

Talkin ruins of old Paineel here. The hole.

The other erudites are too much like vulcans and completely uncarring about things like Kerrans and the savage races who are too easily swayed by "good and evil".

They even wage their own genocidal stuff in lore against Kerrans etc... because theres no place for them in their enlightened world.

Seems pretty evil to me.

[SamwiseRed]

lol