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Old 07-25-2013, 03:08 PM
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Wiping the server would be beneficial to hard core forum posters who are longing for a chance to jump back in and begin the race again. To more casual folks who don't care about the raid scene it'd be a real let down and demoralizing to have their days of grinding removed because someone is selling 10 packs of fungi tunics that don't affect them in any way. There are actually a fair amount of new people lately as well, even if the raiders rarely see them.

I'd imagine this is why the forum polls are always skewed towards wiping because harder core players are more likely to post in the forums. Similar to why Systolic's original post alleging GM corruption had almost half the forums believing him in the poll despite the fact that they were just shady statements with no backup -- people who post here more regularly, being harder core, are more disenchanted with p99 and more willing to believe bad things about it imo.
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Liveitup1216, nobody ever answers me, but how would 1 wipe in almost 4 years of a server's life induce fear that your characters would keep getting wiped? Still genuinely curious how you go about living your life if you live in fear of things that happen one time.
Because of what context the wipe is done in. By wiping now we are affirming that we can not, or do not know how to handle duping/exploiting in a manner which doesn't cause a crisis from occurring and having to nuke our entire server in an attempt to solve the problem (Again it doesn't in any way shape or form).

Its also reasonable to assume that when the server does ultimately mature again, we've done nothing to curtail the original problems which afflicted the first server, and we're back in the same damn situation again. Pretty obvious.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:07 PM
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Maybe because everytime there was a poll, the yes votes were double?
and the polls are valid because everybody who plays this game visits the forum every day to keep track of this kind of thing, right?
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:08 PM
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I see why a wipe would be such a heated discussion against all demographics... the vets/newbs/casuals, EVERYONE.

I don't see why having a second server is such a heated topic... I get that from a vets perspective it could split the population and in some scenarios possibly hurt longevity on both servers, and that, even as a worst case scenario, hurts everyone.

What if they, and this is just a hypothetical, brought up a 2nd server with a huge message that said "This server is a fresh copy of P99 blue, and is on a 3-month trial. At the end of 3 months, if the population on this server is not >200 it will be shut down. If the population on the Original P99 blue drops <200, this server will shut down to encourage repopulation of the original server. If after 3 months, both servers have a stable population, this server will remain the same as blue."

Just sayin, as a hypothetical, and won't happen. But would that please all demographics? And it's just fun to throw out random scenarios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:14 PM
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Just because there are people with better gear then you, doesnt mean that the game is unbalanced/broken/any other retarded ideas you guys have. If not jealousy, then what is the problem? This is not a pvp server, other geared players in the world actually helps you

The nice thing about this game is that you can farm any piece of non raid gear you want. No, the fbss, smr, etc. is not "permacamped", any idiot can get the camp if they tried. Newbies starting off on this server now are doing 500% better then they were 2-3 years ago due to hand me downs, twinked group members, etc..

The only problem here is this bitchy jealous little girl mentality going on, and you should all be ashamed.

That said, I would support the opening of a new server, soley because pre kunark was more fun than post kunark.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:17 PM
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Just because there are people with better gear then you, doesnt mean that the game is unbalanced/broken/any other retarded ideas you guys have. If not jealousy, then what is the problem? This is not a pvp server, other geared players in the world actually helps you

The nice thing about this game is that you can farm any piece of non raid gear you want. No, the fbss, smr, etc. is not "permacamped", any idiot can get the camp if they tried. Newbies starting off on this server now are doing 500% better then they were 2-3 years ago due to hand me downs, twinked group members, etc..

The only problem here is this bitchy jealous little girl mentality going on, and you should all be ashamed.
Were you making a point or stating your position at all in this response, or are you just bitching for the sake of bitching?
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:20 PM
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I think wiping the server is a good idea, or at the very least starting a new one.


I definitely love the concept of the server and what it's offering but I feel like it's all been so badly ruined. A fresh server with a progression time line would be offering exactly what P99 intended to do.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:15 PM
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I'm sure you would. Then after a couple of months of you not finding any other emulated servers you would come back. Supply and demand. Good luck in EQmac or Live.. LOL.
don't even pretend you know me or my motivations for playing here. you do realize there are other games out there besides EQ, right? this is the only emu server i've ever played on, and after my experiences here, would probably be the last.

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Just realize one thing. Sooner or later there will be a reset, new server, or the termination of the server ..
and when that day comes, i'll move along. i guarantee i won't be the only one.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:17 PM
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I used to play on this server, but quit due to the horrible economy, watching other people of my level run around with epic items and massive twinks was not what I had in mind when I heard "Classic Server".

I would absolutely return if the server was wiped, it would be great.
I can think of many others who would also return if the server were wiped clean.


Wipe the server!
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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The people against a wipe tend to be either newer players who honestly would come right back if the low end game was sprawling with fresh players living out classic EQ OR toxic veterans who've become far too attached to their pixels.

Either way, the players lost would be a welcomed sacrifice to a healthier server. Let the toxic players beat their chest and storm off, it'll be enjoyable to watch them trickle back in. Better yet, they don't come back and RnF gets smaller.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:25 PM
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The people against a wipe tend to be either newer players who honestly would come right back if the low end game was sprawling with fresh players living out classic EQ OR toxic veterans who've become far too attached to their pixels.

Either way, the players lost would be a welcomed sacrifice to a healthier server. Let the toxic players beat their chest and storm off, it'll be enjoyable to watch them trickle back in. Better yet, they don't come back and RnF gets smaller.
Because pixels is obviously the issue here and not time when playing one of the most infamous grinding MMOs to date in the history of the genre outside of the asian market, right?
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