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Old 07-03-2013, 09:28 AM
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You're all overlooking how the money in magic is actually made. Sure some people have pulled in hundreds of thousands of dollars in tournament winnings, but people aren't making money off of tournament winnings.

They make their money by using their tournament winnings and continued success and then leverage that by content writing/theorycrafting/appearing elsewhere. Just take a look at http://www.starcitygames.com/ and look at all the pros/former pros that are being paid to write articles for SCG. On top of that, some of them (like chapin) have written books to further supplement their earnings.

Winning a pro-tour or worlds title is nice and all, but when the top earners have made under 400k in their lives, spread over the last 15 years that's not exactly enough to live on and have to do nothing else (unless you live in shit/squalor and live off of ramen). Sure those that play poker can win considerably more, and THEY can liv off their winnings, but not all magic players are successful poker pros.

Most earn their paychecks writing about magic for other sites or use their winnings to go to college/open up businesses etc.

Contrary to OP's narrative, having known some of these people they are not basement dwelling sperlords like the magic players you may encounter on Friday nights at your local gameshops. Most of the people winning tours and making a living off of magic are older, know they cannot live off of prize money alone, and generally pretty intelligent.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:30 AM
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Forgot to add, online/offline card sales in the secondary market are a HUGE part of the game. Not sure if any/how many pros successfully run/operate businesses that deal in cards, but it's a pretty decent gig, especially if you have connections to get cards for cheap/technical abilities to write online bots.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:32 AM
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I wish I could edit my first post..

"You're all overlooking how the money in magic is actually made. Sure some people have pulled in hundreds of thousands of dollars in tournament winnings, but people aren't making money off of tournament winnings.

They make their money"

Should read:

"You're all overlooking how the money in magic is actually made. Sure some people have pulled in hundreds of thousands of dollars in tournament winnings, but people aren't making a living off of tournament winnings.

They make their living"
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:52 AM
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There's some money in writing, but more in the cards. Adrian Sullivan and Mike Flores do okay, but both have other jobs. All the pros I know have other jobs except David Williams. Everyone I know plays for fun; the money is just a bonus. On the other hand, Ben Bleiweiss and Dan Bock (neither of whom were ever PT regulars) make big coin selling cards, and Steve Port makes a nice living running big events, distributing product, and running a couple stores. Dan Bock drives a black Lotus.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:52 PM
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...verage/alltime

This is a current money winners top 200 list.

Also like was stated earlier. Pros may not make a decent living, but they still do stuff like write articles and have other side ways to make money. Also the perks of being a pro are pretty nice. I don't know many other hobbies that pay you to travel the world and play a card game.

In regards to the sperglords or freak fucks that play magic, they usually aren't the tournament players, but are usually the weird fuck EDH or commander players. They are like the rejects who don't fit in with the regular magic players. They are the ones that stink and sit off in their own little side group, because they are too socially awkward to talk to the other nerds.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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Doesn't understand the concept behind "The social Magic format"

Tries to call players of it the opposite of what they are.

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Old 07-04-2013, 12:26 PM
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I'm very confused by you. Why do you intentionally make yourself the odd man out with no upside? Is it a search for identity? Does it actually surprise you that there is a big overlap between EverQuest players and Magic the Gathering players? Does it surprise you that competitive raiders tend to also be competitive card players?

I haven't taken part in ridiculing your anime hobby, but I find it pretty worthless. Do you ever draw your own anime, or does your hobby consist entirely of consuming entertainment and collecting memorabilia? I have very little respect for conspicuous consumption. I have trouble calling that a hobby at all. It seems like a precursor to hoarding.

Some of my high school classmates are into scrapbooking and stamping. I thought those were odd crafts--crafts for their own sake that require no skill or technique and that don't produce any useful items. However, people engaging in those pursuits are at least actively doing something.

There are worse things you could do with your time, but acting as a weebo evangelist is pretty annoying.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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I understand the concept behind "social magic", everyone plays the game differently. I get that.

Im just saying, that at my store the weird fucks are the ones that play EDH because they are the social outcasts of the magic scene. They are the smelly ones, the ones that yell stupid shit, and also wear their goth gear with all the chains and ones that have fat girlfriends who like to wear animal ears and tails with their clothing. They also tend to stay away from the competitive format because they are either terrible at it, or they enjoy sitting around a table with 6 other people doing nothing but building up some army of whatever their deck is, and doing nothing for 40 turns.

Im not saying some competitive players aren't weird but if you want to find the creeps usually you just look at the freaks with 100 card decks sitting off in their own corner.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:50 AM
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In regards to the sperglords or freak fucks that play magic, they usually aren't the tournament players, but are usually the weird fuck EDH or commander players. They are like the rejects who don't fit in with the regular magic players. They are the ones that stink and sit off in their own little side group, because they are too socially awkward to talk to the other nerds.
Can confirm EDH players are always the smelly ultra nerds because bad EDH decks are very cheap and never rotate.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:13 PM
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I remember the one and only "friday night magic" I went to at the local card shop... I beat this guy and he literally stood up, whipped his deck against the wall and stormed out.
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