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[RKromwell]

Depends on the zone really. If I do something stupid, why train folks at the zone in?

[soup]

Originally Posted by RKromwell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on the zone really. If I do something stupid, why train folks at the zone in?

Why hang out AFK at the zone in when you know people train there when in trouble? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[RKromwell]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why hang out AFK at the zone in when you know people train there when in trouble? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I try to take pitty on folks who do dumb stuff more often than I do. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldolma]

It's a borderline exploit that enchanters zone to heal their charms, agreed. But half of what makes up good EverQuest strategy is borderline exploitation. You're given the rules with which you have to work. It's not like he's duping items with a merchant or something.

When a pet user and a rogue duo, and the pet user roots the mob (thus enabling pet to tank via range aggro), that's an exploit of sorts -- the clear intent of the creators was to disallow pet tanking with other melees in group. Chain-petting mages are exploits of sorts. I doubt the game's creators had realized that a mage, when his pet was in trouble, would be better off allowing it to die and summoning a new one than attempting to heal and/or otherwise save their current. They're strategies as much as exploits.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a borderline exploit that enchanters zone to heal their charms, agreed. But half of what makes up good EverQuest strategy is borderline exploitation. You're given the rules with which you have to work. It's not like he's duping items with a merchant or something.

When a pet user and a rogue duo, and the pet user roots the mob (thus enabling pet to tank via range aggro), that's an exploit of sorts -- the clear intent of the creators was to disallow pet tanking with other melees in group. Chain-petting mages are exploits of sorts. I doubt the game's creators had realized that a mage, when his pet was in trouble, would be better off allowing it to die and summoning a new one than attempting to heal and/or otherwise save their current. They're strategies as much as exploits.

Range agro with root an exploit? How is that not intentional? They coded it specifically to target the closest person. They could have said "fuck it" and not done anything, and root would have just made it so the mob just couldn't move but could target anyone who still had the most hate. It's a valid tactic for any classes (or even pet) to tank and allows different strategies and combination of classes to work together.

Resummoning pets instead of healing is exploiting? That's such a stupid example it's not even funny. When you have a focused earth pet at lvl 49 it comes out to roughly 4k hp. How is it logical to use a 100 mana spell to heal between 140-200hp with a spell from lvl 20 vs resummoning a pet that costs what? a malachite or two and 200 mana?
Just because they're remaking the game as it was in 1999, doesn't mean that you also have to relive the ignorance as it was back in 1999.

[Arkis]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because they're remaking the game as it was in 1999, doesn't mean that you also have to relive the ignorance as it was back in 1999.

Gotta admit though, this is something missing from the server that was from classic:

Complaints about other classes and nerf raging!

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Arkis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta admit though, this is something missing from the server that was from classic:

Complaints about other classes and nerf raging!

Since Furor isn't here do to it, I will - "monks need to be nerfed and nerfed hard."

Pretty sure that was the quote the inspired the big "nerf monks" campaign of Luclin.

[logiktrip]

Please explain the difference, and why it becomes the enchanters camp:

1. A group kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
2. An enc has claimed the camp while the first group was returning.
2. An enc kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
3. The group, noticing this discrepancy, reclaims the camp.

Regardless of your methods of soloing, this is no longer your camp. You used the rules against the group, and they used them back against you.

And finally, leave Div out of this. if this was the entire guild camping king you may have a point. Instead it comes across as drivel attempting to get as many people on your side as you possibly can....it's a weak excuse for those that know they were wrong.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by logiktrip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please explain the difference, and why it becomes the enchanters camp:

1. A group kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
2. An enc has claimed the camp while the first group was returning.
2. An enc kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
3. The group, noticing this discrepancy, reclaims the camp.

Regardless of your methods of soloing, this is no longer your camp. You used the rules against the group, and they used them back against you.

And finally, leave Div out of this. if this was the entire guild camping king you may have a point. Instead it comes across as drivel attempting to get as many people on your side as you possibly can....it's a weak excuse for those that know they were wrong.

Someone needs to l2memblur.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by logiktrip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please explain the difference, and why it becomes the enchanters camp:

1. A group kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
2. An enc has claimed the camp while the first group was returning.
2. An enc kills a mob and zones out, intent on returning.
3. The group, noticing this discrepancy, reclaims the camp.

Regardless of your methods of soloing, this is no longer your camp. You used the rules against the group, and they used them back against you.

And finally, leave Div out of this. if this was the entire guild camping king you may have a point. Instead it comes across as drivel attempting to get as many people on your side as you possibly can....it's a weak excuse for those that know they were wrong.

First group wiped, during which time they took WAY too long to regroup, enough time for Enchanter to clear the camp, with no one bothering to run down there to hold the camp while others were rezzed and such. Enchanter zoned out for mere seconds to reset his pet. Logic dictates without them saying anything immediately after zoning back in or even attempting to keep the camp that they were either A) Lying about being there in the first place B) Didn't care enough to bother to hold the camp C) Have some entitlement issues that need to be dealt with. By all reason of logic the camp belonged to Shewz (if only because P99 camp rules are fucking RETARDED and need to be changed drastically...idk what server whoever came up with the current rules is from, but dear Christ please go back) and it was pretty stand up for him to just say he would leave after the next PH pop. Was pretty shitty of them to steal his kill, even if he was given the sword/