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[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I demand bans any time a mob paths through a wall, despite the fact that you often can't help it in the least.

LOL

Yes, you often cant help repeating it on the same pull over and over again. Such a mystery!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was under that impression too at first, but upon what Zapatos has shown me, unless told otherwise its 100% legal, in regards to how you can train dragons up top.

<3 HE

Now on another serious note, can someone provide evidence not from an old GM saying otherwise?

Being that pulling thru walls in legal, kinda sets the precedent pretty much all but ninja looting is acceptable. Was fun tho guys, grats!

Derper, training isn't exploiting a raid mob for loots. You call yourself a raid guild but you are this uninformed when it comes to VP raid rules?

[radditsu]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

Ambrotos' rules were overturned by sirken in a public raid rules post.

[Kieu]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
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___________________________________
The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

zing.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...Ledge+amelinda


The staff feels that this trivializes the zone and content. The way the dragons are being pulled is also causing them to path through the walls. This significantly reduces the potential for adds and further trivializes content. The "trash mobs" in Veeshan's Peak are intended to be part of the challenge of the zone.


The very next post. Is TMO bitching. The * Denotes my analysis of the post.


This has to be a joke Amelinda.
A) mobs do not add anywhere in the zone if pulled properly *aka exploit pulled*
B) this spot isnt used to trivilaze the encounter it is used to stop other guilds from using an exploit to harras other guilds. *aka prevent training*
C) Refere to A *not clever*
D) hi, i miss you changing me into a gnome. that is all *pandering*
__________________
___________________________________
The Mystical Order 60 Monk Silentone


I propose training trash in VP is harassing other guilds. I propose pulling VP dragons through walls/geometry is exploiting. I propose if one rule is made and followed in VP, then it is opened to more rules. If the rules are in place Amelinda(former GM) made about VP then rules should be enforced about pulling non roaming dragons out of their cubbies. I also thought Ambrotos(former GM) made rulings about Inny /other mobs that prevent them from being pulled to zone ins. Those rules are no longer valid.

for the tldr crowd
A. Either all previous rules made by GM's are enforced, or they are not enforced in regards to VP.
B. If the pathing is exploitable in VP. Then no dragons outside of silverwing/hoskar should be pulled to zone in, as they do not bug out.
C. Boobs, refer to A
D. I miss ambrotos turning into Inny and fake training when people we were doing hate armor raids.

I would love to see a legit vp. Where entire raid corpses rot unless another raid can come bail them out. Planar geared epic characters rotting because the zone is just that tough.

instead we see single pull of named and practically 0 trash being cleared. really just makes vp a joke

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derper, training isn't exploiting a raid mob for loots. You call yourself a raid guild but you are this uninformed when it comes to VP raid rules?

alarti doing the herp derp~!

How can we be uninformed when there is no spooonnnn?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

alarti doing the herp derp~!

How can we be uninformed when there is no spooonnnn?

Merkk's post fizzles.

[Cecily]

Good thread.

[Versus]

God Forbid We Attempted A Dragon Where They Did, TheyWould Be Screaming Bloody Murder For A Raid Suspension.


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