GOT DESMO?

[Rellapse10]

most all the threads have been swept under the rug now and FOH is gone so can't go look up the pics there =/

[radditsu]

Think Big Uth posted it all to the FOH boards at some point. He may have some originals still

[falkun]

I am normally down for some TMO bashing as much as the next guy, but Desmo is clearly LD at 0:08, and stays in game until 0:22. AKA he didn't poof. If you want to argue training, that might be legit, but you can't blame a man for /q-ing. Here's a screenshot directly from the FRAPS (480p is shit quality, FYI):
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That is at 0:08 in the FRAPs, the first time Desmo is shown.

[Alarti0001]

FE to require Stopwatches for all character switches any login faster than a pentium 4 with a 56k connection is obviously cheating.

[falkun]

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pentium 4 with a 56k connection

Shit's classic. I actually remember putting in a petition because I was running slower than normal run speed and getting wrecked by the spiders between FV outpost and LOIO back when my Live character was in the teens. That's when I found out that run-speed was tied to FPS, and I had a shitty computer and shittier dial-up. Even on the Titanium client here on P99, run-speed is tied to FPS. Every AoEing bard knows this very well.

[Hackscendence]

When you have aggro it's different. A player does not pop out of game when they /q as they are being hit.

Go ahead and test it.

Zone in to fear, get aggro, /q and then see if you come back alive. If you DA, the mobs drop aggro and move to the next target on their hate list. Since you no longer have aggro on any mobs, the game allows you to pop out after about 10-15 seconds. If you do not DA you win the fight or log back into a corpse.

We can see from the combat text in the video that Desmo does not have DA up as he is being hit by the mobs and yet he pops out of game effortlessly with full aggro on him.

Really. Test it. Prove me wrong. If that's not the case, I want to see that it isn't as it would change the way that I deal with similar situations myself.

[falkun]

Desmo is first sighted at 0:08 and stays in game until 0:22. But that does not preclude Desmo from LDing BEFORE he is EVER visible in the FRAPs. He could have been LD long before the FRAPS starts running. If you watch the FRAPs, Desmo NEVER moves from the first time he is visible (robe @ 0:06) to when he disappears (0:22). You can confirm he is LD by 0:08. Fistn does not show that angle before Desmo arrives in that spot, so we never know when Desmo initially goes LD, just that he disappears while LD and has been LD for at least 14 seconds. Either way, 14 seconds != instant, he has more training with Aiaus before he learns that move apparently.

[Hackscendence]

But, again, to reiterate, he has full aggro on the mobs as we can see by the combat spam. The amount of time isn't really a concern here, I've been in fights with tougher green/lightblue cons, /q'd and still been kept out of game for a good 3-4 minutes while the fight completed.

How do you /q with full aggro and no DA and still leave game within 18 seconds, 24 seconds, 38 seconds, or any amount of time for that matter while you have aggro on a mob.

[Hackscendence]

The definition of poofing is not instantly disappearing after using /q. The definition is utilizing an IP exemption to force your player out of game with another client. He could easily be giving it a few seconds for plausible deniability.

Try it deejay. In my experience it works the same regardless of the mob's level.

[falkun]

I know how LDing works. I also know I've survived LDs while fighting mobs (and had the mob reset, so it hadn't died either).

You can also tell Desmo was very low on the aggro list, the mobs are fully clear aggro for a split second after lily dies until they aggro someone behind Fistn at the end of the FRAPs. Desmo could have been aggroed for a very long time if he was the last aggro out of a complete camp-off.