My America

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how many native american indians died to your genocide?

You mean the one begun by the europeans dating back to the time of Melinche?

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

true that, i.e. the excellent austrian health insurance



doubt it since my grandfather was italian as i am.

besides that, how many native american indians died to your genocide?

Fascismo! Wow, Italian doesn't work so well for distancing yourself from... you know, that political party.

Since we're ducking responsibility based on heritage, I'm fourth generation German and Swedish. My people were dairy farmers and carpenters. Since immigrating, none of us have ever owned a slave or shot a Native American. And we were all in America in time to avoid belonging to... you know.

[Alawen Everywhere]

There were 52 executions in America in 2009. There is an extensive appeal process and very few cases of alleged wrongful execution. This is not one of our major issues. Most Americans approve of capital punishment and this is a democracy.

[Xenephex]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There were 52 executions in America in 2009. There is an extensive appeal process and very few cases of alleged wrongful execution. This is not one of our major issues. Most Americans approve of capital punishment and this is a democracy.

For those who kill or molest children, I approve of putting them out in the general prison population.

[Cogwell]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There were 52 executions in America in 2009. There is an extensive appeal process and very few cases of alleged wrongful execution. This is not one of our major issues. Most Americans approve of capital punishment and this is a democracy.

1 of those 52 was fairly widely covered recently as a (by all outward appearances) innocent man. He was in Texas, of course, and was convicted of killing his 2 (?) young daughters by burning his own home. In hindsight, the state of Texas used extremely outdated and incorrect data and assumptions on how fires are started and spread in its investigation through which he was convicted, the man was a very loving father according to all who knew him, and went to his grave protesting his innocence.

If you feel that a 2% wrongful conviction rate is fine (and judging by releases through DNA evidence in recent years, that number is probably a lowball estimate), then consider the cost to taxpayers to execute as opposed to live imprisonment, and you have to come to the conclusion that it is only "not one of our major issues" because the media is too busy freaking out about some white girl that got killed to actually cover our judicial system in any meaningful manner.

[Gorgetrapper]

I'd rather pay for the death penalty than have criminals who are in a prison for 30+ years getting food/water and shelter every day with OUR tax money, when it could easily be going to reputable charities to help homeless people in the US (fuck the other countries, they get more donations than we do here)

[Hasbinbad]

Taxi, please qualify that statement with a "most."

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taxi, please qualify that statement with a "most."

Of course i dont think all americans are ignorant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I linked democracy now! in this thread its certainly not because i think Amy Goodman knows nothing about the world.

I was talking about americans in general yeah.

[Hasbinbad]

There ARE a few of us who look around and hang our heads in shame..

It certainly is frustrating.

[Alawen Everywhere]

And then there are a few of us who have actually served our country and hold our heads high.